I was looking for a strong enough recliner. I found a discussion of "The Beast" on http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/body_size/114084 and what's better, Bernie and Phyl's even carries them so one can try sitting on one before buying. (I have sat, and have not yet bought.) So then I thought, "I wonder what else is out there?" as my scale from amplestuff broke, not for the first time. I found a web-ring http://www.ringsurf.com/netring?ring=bbwfa;action=list (and by the way, any FA's reading this might really enjoy that ring). >From the ring I found http://www.supersizeworld.com/ (parent company of what some of you might know as scale-it) I also found http://www.bigcostumes.com/cgi-bin/hazel-cgi/hazel.cgi which uses big models, although I did not feel that they looked very attractive. And something you may need to visit in this order http://www.casagordita.com/ http://www.casagordita.com/fatacc.htm http://www.casagordita.com/otherstuff.htm because just going to the last URL did not work for me but going to the others first did make it work. Just in case you don't all know about this stuff already, I thought I would share. Mary-Anne @[EMAIL PROTECTED]