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Re: Aneurysm and Multiple Sclerosis

by "Shelley" <noway@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 9, 2008 at 10:11 AM

On rereading, the Teri Garr story was spot-on (sorry Tommy)... just kinda 
long.  This is one of his saner looking posts; it's easy to be fooled! 
Even 
a broken clock is right twice a day... :)

Shelley

"Shelley" <noway@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:...
> Leslie,
>
> Tommy/Ironjustice is a net troll who cross posts to multiple newsgroups 
> and believes that everything is caused by problems with iron and the 
> blood, etc etc and he extrapolates that to explain, and cure, every 
> disease known to man or beast.  He goes off on wild tangents (like the 
> Teri Garr story in the middle of that post) then wanders back to his 
> topic.  And I was a vegetarian for many many years.  Still got MS... :)
>
> I am sorry to hear of your double whammy, but I'm going to guess it's
more 
> of a coincidence than anything else... a very crappy coincidence, but 
> nonetheless... I would check back with your neuro for his/her opinion,
or 
> do some web searching of your own.
>
> There's a lot of good information on the internet, but also quite a bit
of 
> bad, and Tommy Tin Pot falls into the second group, without a doubt. 
Many 
> of us simply block or killfile him, tired of his one note rants, but we 
> still have to look at the posts in response to him... the troll baiters 
> and the troll beaters, who cross post wildly and waste my hand energy...

> :) Don't know who's more annoying, Tommy or the people whose hobby it 
> seems to be to torture him... we could take a vote??!!
>
> Just my two cents...
>
> Shelley
>
>
> "Leslie" <leslie49remove@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:A03nk.6376$rD2.4340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> This can't be just coincidence....I too was found to have a small 
>> aneurysm when I had the MRI that also showed the brain lesions
attributed 
>> to MS. And after the spinal tap, MS was diagnosed.  Talk about getting 
>> hit with two punches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I got bad news and bad news the 
>> same day!  I saw a neuro-surgeon who, after giving me a cerebral 
>> angiogram, said that the aneurysm was too small for surgery at this
time, 
>> so I have to have a CT every 6 months to keep monitor it's growth (or 
>> lack thereof).  Until reading this just now, I had no idea that the two

>> could be related!  My neuro never mentioned it.  How interesting! 
Leslie
>>
>>
>> "ironjustice" <teamtanner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>
news:eb7eb189-d4e2-42e7-92af-2c7a0fb0916a@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Unrelated to the aneurysm"
>>
>> I disagree.
>> With the high rate of aneurysm in those with hyperviscosity and the
>> high rate of hyperviscosity in those WITH .. multiple sclerosis .. ?
>>
>> By A. Chris Gajilan
>> CNN Medical producer
>>
>> LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Actress-comedian Teri Garr may be
>> best known for her roles in iconic 1980s films "Mr. Mom" and
>> "Tootsie," but in the past few years, she's probably done as many
>> interviews focusing on her health as on her acting career.
>>
>>
>> Teri Garr speaks in May at Race to Erase MS, an annual multiple
>> sclerosis fund-raising event.
>>
>> "Those were two of my favorite movies and they were about role
>> reversal," says Garr. "How come women are treated differently from men
>> all the time? Not only handicapped people, but women -- and
>> handicapped women forget it!"
>>
>> The words "handicapped" and "disabled" are not new to Garr. In 2006,
>> Garr suffered a ruptured brain aneurysm that almost killed her.
>>
>> "I went to sleep to take a nap and my daughter couldn't wake me up.
>> So, thank god she called 9-1-1 and they rushed me to the hospital,"
>> recounts Garr whose daughter, Molly, is now 14.
>>
>> Garr was in a coma for a week and remembers nothing from that time
>> period. But months of rehabilitation and recovery are still fresh in
>> her mind, as is the impact it had on her daughter.
>>
>> "She had to write an essay at school about something very
>> meaningful ... and she wrote about 'my mother's aneurysm.' And I read
>> this thing and I cried. I had no idea that it affected her so much."
>> Dr. Sanjay Gupta re****ts on Teri Garr's recovery »
>>
>> The brain aneurysm wasn't Garr's first major health battle. Unrelated
>> to the aneurysm, she has spent decades dealing with an elusive disease
>> that affects 400,000 Americans. She began to feel mysterious symptoms
>> on the set of 1982's "Tootsie." Her role would later be nominated for
>> an Academy Award for Best Sup****ting Actress.
>>
>> Don't Miss
>> National Multiple Sclerosis Society
>> "I had no idea. I just felt tingling. Actually, I felt buzzing in my
>> foot ... and then when I was jogging also, I would get this horrible
>> pain in my arm like a knife stabbing and I thought well I'm in Central
>> Park -- well, maybe it is a knife stabbing me, but it wasn't," jokes
>> Garr.
>>
>> Various diagnoses and dozens of doctor visits later, Garr says the
>> health mystery was finally solved 17 years after she first experienced
>> symptoms. In 1999, she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, or MS, a
>> chronic and often degenerative disease of the central nervous system
>> including the brain, spinal cord and optic nerves. There is no cure.
>>
>> It was a difficult diagnosis for Garr who started her career as a
>> dancer on the "Sonny and Cher Show" and in films starring Elvis
>> Presley and Annette Funicello. For years, she kept her illness secret
>> despite rumors swirling around her intermittent limp.
>>
>> "I was trying to work but I noticed that people, if they had any
>> inkling of the idea that I was sick or had MS, ... people shunned me.
>> No work after that," she said.
>>
>> At times she has been wheelchair-bound or needed a cane to get around.
>> According to the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, two-thirds of
>> people who have MS remain able to walk.
>>
>> "I call it the s*** sucking pig of a disease that treats everyone
>> differently," says Garr, who wrote about her experience with MS in
>> "Speedbumps: Flooring It through Hollywood." With typical Garr humor
>> she says the original title was going to be "Does this Wheelchair Make
>> Me Look Fat?"
>>
>> "Some people don't get any symptoms, but I wasn't one of them," she
>> said.
>>
>> Since going public with her diagnosis in 2002, she has served as a
>> chair of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society and a paid
>> spokesperson for an MS treatment medication.
>>
>> Health Library
>> MayoClinic.com: Multiple Sclerosis
>> "There are several drugs out right now that can't stop multiple
>> sclerosis, but they can slow it way down," says Garr who has also
>> suffered side effects. "They also made me puff up like a balloon. So I
>> looked horrible. I hated that."
>>
>> Now 63, Garr says she feels fine except for some weakness in her right
>> arm and right leg. She exercises at least an hour a day and says
>> comedy keeps her going.
>>
>>
>> "My next book's title is going to be, 'I Have One Foot in the Grave
>> and Another on a Banana Peel.' "
>>
>> This summer, audiences can catch up with Garr in two new independent
>> films, "Expired" and "Kabluey."
>> ---------------
>>
>> "By reduction of blood viscosity"
>>
>> Basic Science Re****ts
>>
>>
>> Prevention of Rat Cerebral Aneurysm Formation by Inhibition of Nitric
>> Oxide Synthase
>> Shunichi Fukuda, MD; Nobuo Ha****moto, MD; Hiroaki Naritomi, MD; Izumi
>> Nagata, MD; Kazuhiko Nozaki, MD; Soichiro Kondo, MD; Michiharu Kurino,
>> PhD; Haruhiko Kikuchi, MD
>> From the Department of Neurosurgery (S.F., N.H., K.N., S.K.) and
>> Section of Electron Microscopy Laboratory of Anatomic Pathology
>> (M.K.), Kyoto University Hospital, and the Stroke Care Unit,
>> Department of Medicine (H.N.) and Department of Neurosurgery (I.N.,
>> H.K.), National Cardiovascular Center, Osaka, Japan. Dr Fukuda is now
>> at the Department of Neurosurgery, Maizuru Municipal Hospital, and Dr
>> Kondo is now at the Department of Neurosurgery, Tokyo Women's Medical
>> University Hospital, Japan.
>>
>> Correspondence to Shunichi Fukuda, MD, PhD, Department of
>> Neurosurgery, Maizuru Municipal Hospital, 150-11 Mizo****ri, Maizuru
>> City, Kyoto 625-0035, Japan.
>> Abstract
>> Background-Cerebral saccular aneurysm is a major cause of subarachnoid
>> hemorrhage, one of the cerebrovascular diseases with the highest
>> mortality. The mechanisms underlying the development of aneurysms,
>> however, still remain unclear. We have made a series of re****ts on an
>> animal model of experimentally induced cerebral aneurysms that
>> resemble human cerebral aneurysms in their location and morphology,
>> suggesting that the arterial wall degeneration associated with
>> aneurysm formation develops near the apex of arterial bifurcation as a
>> result of an increase in wall shear stress. Using the animal model and
>> human specimens, we examined the role of nitric oxide (NO) in the
>> degenerative changes and cerebral aneurysm formation.
>>
>> Methods and Results-Inducible NO synthase (iNOS) was
>> immunohistochemically located at the orifice of human and rat
>> aneurysms. Nitrotyrosine distribution was also seen in the human
>> aneurysm. Although no iNOS immunostaining was found in normal
>> arteries, iNOS immunoreactivity was observed in parallel with the
>> development of early aneurysmal changes in rats. In contrast, during
>> the early development of aneurysm, endothelial NOS immunostaining in
>> the endothelium was weakened compared with that in the control
>> arteries. An NOS inhibitor, aminoguanidine, attenuated both early
>> aneurysmal changes and the incidence of induced aneurysms. A
>> defibrinogenic agent, batroxobin, which may diminish shear stress by
>> reduction of blood viscosity, prevented iNOS induction as well as
>> early aneurysmal changes.
>>
>> Conclusions-The evidence suggests that NO, particularly that derived
>> from iNOS, is a key requirement for the development of cerebral
>> aneurysm. The iNOS induction may be caused by an increase in shear
>> stress near the apex.
>>
>>
>> Key Words: aneurysm . nitric oxide . cerebrovascular disorders .
>> hemodynamics
>>
>>
>> Who loves ya.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
>> http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>>
>>
>> Man Is A Herbivore!
>> http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>>
>>
>> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
>> http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>>
>>
>>
>
>
 




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