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Re: Multiple chemical sensitivity: study of 52 cases

by "Peter Moran" <pmoran@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 9, 2007 at 05:32 PM

"edgger" <edgger@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:1191890580.719833.227670@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Oct 8, 2:12 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> "edgger" <edg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1191856639.483335.88810@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> > Peter Moran,
>> > Instead of spewing out your lies why don't you show us some evidence?
>>
>> Why accuse me of lying?   What on earth could my motive be for saying 
>> things
>> I don't believe about what can be such a potentially devastating 
>> condition?
>> Why assume bad faith on my part, rather than that  I could simply be
>> mistaken, or presenting a biased slant on the evidence, or relying too 
>> much
>> on my own anecdotal observations in relation to patients I have 
>> encountered
>> with this condition?
>>
>> Do a Pubmed search on multiple chemical sensitivity and you will find
>> studies confirming that blinded challenge of patients with the label of

>> MCS
>> usually shows that the avoided chemicals can be tolerated when the 
>> exposure
>> is not signalled to the patient.    You will also find studies
confirming 
>> a
>> very high rate of associated psychiatric disorder.  Other studies show 
>> that
>> patients can improve
>>
>> , but not usually while engaged in trying to avoid all chemical
exposure 
>> as
>> per the script the pseudo-diagnosis confers.    There may be some 
>> patients
>> with genuine sensitivities to a few different chemicals in tiny doses, 
>> just
>> as there are patients with genuine allergies to a variety of chemicals.

>> But
>> full-blown MCS is something else.
>>
>> PM
>
> Well, your statement that a diagnosis of MCS is "pseudoscience" didn't
> help my perception of you any and the fact that I know some people
> with this illness.

I did not use that word.  I said MCS is a pseudo-diagnosis..  It implies 
something about the patients which is usually not true.   That would not 
matter if the very words did not contain the threat that they may end up a

socially isolated chronic invalid,  through the belief that they are being

poisoned by tiny amounts of common chemicals.

>It is possible that you might be mistaken and I
> apologize if that's the situation. Pubmed also has studies that
> conclude MCS is not psychosomatic.

Some are not.  Some have other illnesses that are actually the source of
the 
dominant symptoms.   Some have real sensitivities to one or two chemicals 
but are still able to lead normal lives without collapsing in a full-blown

MCS heap.  Even many bona fide alternative practitioners accept that 
psychological factors are critical.

Peter Moran
 




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Multiple chemical sensitivity: study of 52 cases
Ilena Rose <BIA@[EMAIL  2007-10-07 10:06:36 
Re: Multiple chemical sensitivity: study of 52 cases
"Peter Moran" &  2007-10-08 07:05:01 
Re: Multiple chemical sensitivity: study of 52 cases
edgger <edgger@[EMAIL   2007-10-08 08:17:19 
Re: Multiple chemical sensitivity: study of 52 cases
"Peter Moran" &  2007-10-09 08:12:06 
Re: Multiple chemical sensitivity: study of 52 cases
edgger <edgger@[EMAIL   2007-10-08 17:43:00 
Re: Multiple chemical sensitivity: study of 52 cases
"Peter Moran" &  2007-10-09 17:32:48 
Re: Multiple chemical sensitivity: study of 52 cases
rpautrey2 <rpautrey2@[  2007-10-09 15:51:40 
Re: Multiple chemical sensitivity: study of 52 cases
Medusa <Medusa4303@[EM  2007-10-09 14:44:32 

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