Citizen Jimserac wrote:
> On Jul 2, 11:16 am, Doug Freyburger <dfrey...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > The main problem with Homeopathy is that it lacks
> > > a theoretical foundation
> >
> > The problem with accupuncture is it lacks a
> > theoretical foundation,
>
> Incorrect, the foundation has
> been laid by standard medicine,
> quite some time ago. MRI
> and other science confirms.
> see the back issues at www.medicalacupuncture.org
> for example,
> MECHANISM OF ACUPUNCTURE - BEYOND NEUROHUMORAL THEORY*
> Charles Shang, MD
> published in:
> Medical Acupuncture
> A Journal For Physicians By Physicians
> Fall 1999 / Wiinter 2000- Volume 11 / Number 2
> http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/vol11_2/conduct.html
>
> 2. Pomeranz B. Scientific basis of acupuncture. In: Stux G, ed.
> Basics of Acupuncture. New York, NY: Springer-Verlag; 1997:30-32.
> 3. Comunetti A, Laage S, SchiessI N, Kistler A. Characterisation of
> human skin conductance at acupuncture points. Experientia.
> 1995;51:328-33 1.
> 4. Bergsman 0, Wooley-Hart A. Differences in electrical skin
> conductivity between acupuncture points and adjacent skin areas. Am J
> Acupuncture. 1973;1:27-32.
> 8. Eory A. In-vivo skin respiration (C02) measurements in the
> acupuncture loci. Acupunct Electrother Res. 1984;9:217-223.
> 9. Mashanskii VF, Markov IuV, Shpunt VKh, Li SE, Mirkin AS. Topography
> of the gap junctions in human skin and their possible role in the
> nonneural transmission of information. Arkh Anat Gistol Embriol.
> 1983;84:53-60.
> 10. Cui H-M. Meridian system: specialized embryonic epithelial
> conduction system. Shanghai J Acupuncture. 1988;3:44-45.
>
>
>
> > and the theory as taught
> > in tradiational Chinese medicine is transparently
> > false.
>
> Unknown.
>
> >But accupuncture *works* far better than
> > a placebo. There are plenty of studies that have
> > been published showing the data.
>
> Correct! For once we agree.
>
> > > and people take their
> > > high school chemistry knowledge based on antique
> > > models of chemistry, apply it to the high dilution
> > > Homeopathy remedies which no longer have any atoms
> > > of the remedy in them and immediately shut down
> > > their thinking processes and dismiss it as nonsense.
> >
> > Show the data that it beats a placebo and start
> > publi****ng. In general medical journals not ones
> > specific to homeopathy. Like accupuncture.
>
> Excuse me but plenty of acupuncture research
> IS published in Acupuncture journals and in
> medical Acupuncture journals.
>
> The contention that nonsense or falsehoods
> or whatever your contention is, is in Homeopathy
> journals is unacceptable to me.
>
> There was FALSE information published
> in the "End of Homeopathy" (sic) Lancet
> issue in 2005, but that does not mean
> I will disregard ALL articles in Lancet from
> now on as fradulent. This is an unreasonable
> position.
>
> Citizen Jimserac
About the "hearing voices and tunes repeatedly":
oh brother.... the same thing that is happening with
the counsellor is happening with the doctor-- two
different stories - one story to the professionals
and another to friends and wife; i give up - at least
the innocuous story is given to the dr. and the results
are = "nothing to worry about-- just the fan".
Erin
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