Erin wrote:
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>> But we do know that we (as a human race) won't be around all that much
>>> longer (due to the now irreversible, manmade global warming) �
�THAT
>>> is
>>> not beyond human understanding. � �I understand it. � But the
>>> planet
>>> itself will survive. � And perhaps some plants.
>>
>> Because there exist photographs of glaciers a century ago
>> and last year, and because there are measurements of
>> melt water exitting Greenland at many time the rate of
>> snow fall on Greenland, it is certain that global warming
>> is happening.
>>
>> What is not certain is the relative size of the human
>> contribution to global warming. Any discussion of global
>> warming that does not address issues like the Little Ice
>> Age, length of interglacial eras in the past, orbit ellipse
>> evolution, solar output variation and so on misses any
>> natural input to global warming. Since natural inputs tend
>> to overwhelm human inputs the question needs to be
>> about percentage of human causation not labels of
>> "manmade".
>>
>> The deal with climatic change - It has always happened
>> since long before humans existed. It has happened with
>> humans on the planet like during the Little Ice Age of the
>> 1300s. It causes significant social upheaval and large
>> human migrations. It does not cause extinction. In fact,
>> since it warms large areas that used to be too cold for
>> intensive argiculture it doesn't even necessarily decrease
>> the total land under cultivation. Just which land is under
>> cultivation. Interesting times but not extincting times.
>>
>> What this has to do with marriage is indirect at best.
>> Marriages go through turbulent times when spouses
>> change over time. Some changes are rapid, others slow.
>> If a marriage is a metaphor for human society and vice
>> versa, let's all be in therapy. Oh wait, posting on-line is
>> theraputic ...
>
>
> Everything goes through cycles because of change. I think it
> was Hera****us who said, that you cannot step into the same river
> twice.
>
> I can thing of a way of testing whether global warming is actually
> man-made--
We already KNOW some of it (most of it) IS manmade. There is NO
ambiguity
there. That much has been established now by the scientists in the field.
> as in medicine, for example, you stop all traffic of
> cars with the exception of necessities such as ambulances,
> fire trucks, delivery of food, etc.; you stop all airplanes and you
> stop all fuel emitting factories for five years. If there is a reversal
> of North Pole melting and animal habitat changes, and there
> is a return to a more stable climate, you might have grounds
> for concluding the cause. You will also have an op****tunity
> for designing a new democraphics in which people can live
> in a cleaner more peaceful environment.
>
> Erin
People are working on this now as we speak. There is great interest in
it!
But it's a little bit too late. We can slow it down, however. And
that's ALL we can do.
It's almost like closing the barn door after the animals have all left.
Just a little bit too late, courtesy of mankind's ineptness, negligence,
and
base stupidity.
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