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Re: "How Not to Commit Suicide" - X. The Priority to Keep a Person Alive May Be Changing

by "Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborator Jul 5, 2008 at 09:00 PM

HOWEDY nickey nooner,

You've got some EXXXCELLENT ideas~!

Please FORGIVE me for top posting. Your original
text follHOWES below.

Oh, and THANK YOU *(I PREY that don't make you SAD)
for NOT tryin to EMBARRASS an HUMILIATE me in front
of everyWON in your pryor post to me.

I'm just writin to advise you that I've got ALL THE
INFORMATION and ADVICE you could EVER
possibly want or need to accomplish ALL your goals,
whatever they may be at the moment <{}: ~ ) >

I'm available 24/7 for your assistance in making the world
 a HAPPIER place, which of curse, would make you VERY
VERY SAD. Which would of curse, will make you VERY
VERY HAPPY. Which of curse, would make you VERY
VERY SAD again.

Kind of a Catch22, eh, nickey nooner?? Catch22 kinda
remindes WON of the theme song to M.A.S.H., don't
it, nickey??

Seems there AIN'T NO SAFE PLACE left on G-D'S green
 earth for the likes of you and your chronic manic depressive
pals, eh, nickey?

You JUST CAN'T EVER BE HAPPY, can you, nickey?:

Here's HOWE COME you chronic manic depressives "GRIEVE":

http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/627/1?etoc

Why It's Hard to Say Goodbye
By Andrea Lu
ScienceNOW Daily News
27 June 2008

With all the heartache it causes, why do some people have so
 much trouble letting go of their grief? In an ironic twist, new
 research shows that the brain's pleasure center may be to blame.

Most people, when confronted with the death of a loved one,
 mourn intensely for a few weeks or months and then gradually
 manage to move on. A small percentage, however, become
debilitated by the loss and can't resume their normal lives; they
 experience what psychologists call complicated grief.

Functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), which measures
 blood flow to various parts of the brain, has shown that grief
activates regions of the brain associated with processing pain.

However, no study had yet observed what happens in the
brain during complicated grief.

In the new work, which will be published in the 15 August issue of
NeuroImage, researchers led by clinical psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor

of the University of California, Los Angeles, looked at 23
women who had lost a mother or sister to breast cancer within the
 past 5 years.

Based on a clinical *****sment, the researchers divided the women
into complicated and noncomplicated grievers. They then showed
the women a series of 60 pictures that paired a photo of a stranger
or the deceased loved one with either a grief-related word (e.g.,
cancer) or a similar-looking but emotionally neutral word (e.g.,
ginger). The purpose of the words was to make the images of
relatives seem fresh, even if the women had already viewed
 them several times on their own.

As expected, fMRI revealed strong activity in pain-processing
areas of the brain when the women saw photos of their relatives
 or grief-related words.

No such effect appeared when subjects saw neutral words or
photos of strangers. The surprise came when women diagnosed
 with complicated grief looked at a picture of their relative or a
 grief-related word: In addition to activity in pain-processing areas
 of the brain, these women showed activity in the nucleus ac***bens,
 a region of the brain linked to pleasure and reward.

The findings could mean that the brains of women with complicated
 grief have not properly adjusted to the fact that their loved ones are
 gone, O'Connor speculates.

When humans become attached to someone, they derive pleasure
from the attachment, and their nucleus ac***bens activate, she
 notes. And because that area is also active when women with
complicated grief see reminders of a dead relative, it may signal
 that these women have a harder time accepting the death of a
loved one than noncomplicated grievers do.

 At the very least, says O'Connor, scientists may now have a
 clinical marker that can help them distinguish among women
 with complicated and noncomplicated grief.

                   ------------------------- 

Of curse, knowing THAT will make you HAPPY that you
finally discovered HOWE COME you're SAD. Which will
of curse, make you very HAPPY. Which will in turn, make
you VERY VERY SAD like a Catch22... and will JUSTIFY
takin the ONLY REASONABLE WAY HOWET, nickey <{}: ~ ) >

               So, nickey nooner, "man-up" an GO FOR IT~!

     "The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
                      may acquire those rights
         which never could have been withholden from them
                    but by the hand of tyranny.
             The question is not can they REASON,
                       nor can they TALK,
                     but can they SUFFER?"  -
                      - Jeremy Bentham

           "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
                 for the good of its victims,
                 may be the most oppressive.
           Those who torment us for our own good
                 will torment us without end,
             for they do so with the approval of
                   their own conscience." -
                       - C.S. Lewis.

         "Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
                  Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
                        Agamemnon.

        "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
                   and you will know each other.
         If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
                and what you do not know you will fear.

                   What one fears, one destroys."
                      Chief Dan George

             All truth p***** through three stages.
                     First, it is ridiculed.
               Second, it is violently opposed.
            Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
                    -Arthur Schopenhauer

             "Thank you for fighting the fine fight-- 
                  even tho it's a hopeless task,
                     in this system of things.
                  As long as man is ruling man,
                 there will be animals (and humans!)
                    abused and neglected. :-(
                    Your student," Juanita.

                "If you've got them by the balls
                    their hearts and minds
                        will follow,"
                         John Wayne.

                    ANY QUESTIONS, People?

                           "Ye shall know the truth,
                    and the truth shall make you mad." -
                                ~Aldous Huxley.

             "Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
             "Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain!"
                                  -Friedrich Schiller.

                                       INDEEDY.

        AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!

                                In Love And Light,
                   I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
                    The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
                                    Jerry Howe,
            The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
                                 A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
                               *M-A-J-E-S-T-I-C*
                                  *G-R-A-N-D*
                                *M-A-S-T-E-R*
         Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Ferret, Goat, Monkey
                SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >

                   HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >

Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092 (Call ANY TIME)
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> "There are a growing number of people in the psychiatric community,"
David 
> Gruder said, "who feel privately that their patients, regardless of the 
> law, have the right to decide whether or not to take their own life.
Under 
> certain cir***stances, there are psychiatrists who won't prevent some of

> their patients from killing themselves. But you can't talk about this
out 
> loud too often, because it's illegal and could also be grounds for 
> disbarment." He said an influential book for therapists on this subject
is 
> _Back to One_ by Sheldon Kopp (1977; $7.95 postpaid from Science and 
> Behavior Books, P.O. Box 11457, Palo Alto, CA 94306).
>
> If you believe, as I did starting this article, that each of us has a 
> right to commit suicide and potentially valid reasons for doing so which

> should be respected, you might think there's something gruesome about a 
> system which automatically acts to preserve life, whether the person
wants 
> it preserved or not. There's an apocryphal story told in every emergency

> room: someone comes in for the thirtieth or fortieth time on a suicide 
> attempt and a doctor finally explodes and says, "Look, why don't you try

> it this way," and the patient does next time and dies. Every
professional 
> I talked to - doctor, paramedic, suicide prevention counselor,
therapist, 
> pharmacologist, nurse - said there have been people who made them think,

> 'You're right. You have nothing to live for.' But the attempt to save
the 
> person's life is always made. As Dr. Richard Fein, who directs
outpatient 
> services at San Francisco General Hospital, said, to decide whether 
> someone's life is worth living in an emergency is gross arrogance.
>
> There are people who think suicide can be a method of natural selection
in 
> an overcrowded world. Suicides in prisons are often not saved, I was
told 
> by several people; the same is true sometimes in some cities, for the 
> indigent suicide, the alcoholic suicide, the aged or non-white suicide. 
> Nobody else wants them; they finally suc***b to the obvious. Aren't
there 
> people who ought to be killing themselves but are not?
>
> Brr. I'm on the side of saving lives automatically. I liked what Stuart 
> Bair, who counsels many of the desperate and penniless suicide
attempters 
> at San Francisco General Hospital, said: "I believe in miracles. I think

> there's always a reason to hope someone's life will improve." And I like

> what psychiatrist Michael Simpson said about the terminally ill that 
> groups like Exit and Hemlock are trying to reach: "Those who work with 
> terminal patients, like people in hospices, say there are very few 
> requests for suicide. People want to be relieved of pain, which we could

> do for nearly everyone if we were given good hospice and palliative
care. 
> We need to be sure we've guaranteed mercy living before we get around to

> mercy killing."
>
> Anyway, I suspect suicidal people are automatically rescued not for
their 
> own sakes, but for the rest of us. A suicide death, unless it is 
> rationally prepared for, devastates. The message of a suicide attempt is

> often: Death is better than the pain you've caused me. And the message 
> doesn't have to come from someone you know. David Gruder, who directed 
> crisis hotlines, told me about a woman who called up and raved: "I've
had 
> it. I'm pissed off. I'm killing myself and damned if I'm not to take 
> someone else with me and you, you bastard, are coming. BANG!" She shot 
> herself. And, as it happened, it was the hotline worker's first call.
She 
> went right into a nervous breakdown.
>
> But I believe the main reason a suicide attempt devastates and
fascinates 
> us is it reminds us how fragile our own hold on life is. "Here I am 
> struggling along with my problems," Michael Simpson said, "and here's a 
> guy who's given up. Is it possible I'm wrong in bothering so hard to try

> to live? Once you start discussing suicide you're asking what the
grounds 
> are for killing ourselves. The other side of that question is, 'What am
I 
> living for?' That's an ugly question for most of us because we don't 
> usually know."
>
> If someone you know is thinking of suicide, or you think they are, and
you 
> don't want them to die, tell them. "Please call me or call suicide 
> prevention before you try anything because I care about you and I don't 
> want you to die." Don't argue with them about why life is worth living, 
> because you can't win that one in rational argument. Tell them how you
and 
> other people will feel when they're gone. If there are mental health 
> services you trust in your neighborhood, you may want to suggest them.
>
> If you are scared you may commit suicide, and sometimes you don't want
to, 
> there may be more options than you realize. A good guide to whatever 
> mental health services are around and how to find them is _You Are Not 
> Alone_ (NWEC, p. 327). It's worth looking around to see if there's a 
> friend, family member or neighbor that you can talk to about it. Even
if, 
> like me, you distrust mental health services, it's probably worth
calling 
> suicide prevention. They're listed under that name in the phone book
white 
> pages, or call the American Association of Suicidology at (303) 692-0985

> for the phone number of one near you.
>
> If you want to make someone pay attention to you through a suicide 
> attempt, you might consider leaving a note for that person and checking 
> into an emergency room and telling them you're suicidal. You'll got 
> through the same psychiatric hold, but without the damage to your body. 
> Choose your emergency room carefully. Some, like Herrick Hospital in 
> Berkeley, often have eight- to ten-hour waits for non-critical patients,

> in dismal surroundings that will probably make you feel worse.
>
> Or, have you considered changing your life?
>
> © Art Kleiner.
 




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