Josh's Mom wrote:
>
> On Jun 11, 4:13 pm, "May" <May.T.Co...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > People who commit suicide don't realise that suicide is never
justified;
> > however hard life may seem at the time. Not even those high born
Japanese
> > who commit ceremonial suicide in order to atone for some disgrace.
It's not
> > a brave person who commits suicide, only a weak person because they
are
> > giving in. Many don't realise that people only truly learn by
hard****ps and
> > strictness. We don't learn anything by kindness alone. Hard****ps,
pain,
> > disabilities; to name a few all give motivation, determination to win.
> >
Young people have not lived long enough to know how good life gets and
can be.
But the problem is nobody recognizes the person is unhappy and can't
find a reason
to live or doesn't realize that if they only enjoy one thing in life
such as
bouncing a ball, that is reason to live another day and if they bound a
ball for joy
each day, soon they will find a second joy or reason for living and with
time they will
find another reason and soon they don't want to commit suicide.
There are exceptions, fo course, homo***uality being one. If a young
boy or girl
turns 11 or 12 and realizes they are homo***ual or likely homo***ual
which are the most
hated people on the planet across all cultures, races, religions, on the
entire planet,
including parents, friends, then they have little or no hope of sup****t
in small towns and
even possible cities.
> > We come to this Earth to develop our immortal soul and by committing
suicide
> > means we have failed, but think of this: If you heat metal in a
furnace do
> > you do so because the metal has erred and must be punished, or do you
do it
> > in order to improve the qualities of the material? Such is life!
> >
No, we come to this earth believing that who we are with all our faults
and good qualities will
be at least accepted, ignored or loved, but learn that nobody but nobody
wants their offspring
to be homo***ual. That wasn't part of the deal when the parents tried
to have a kid. They said
we will have a kid but it can't be homo***ual.
> > Cutting your life short only creates more problems.
True, killing oneself is not the answer or the route one must take, but
do parents and society
send a clear message to the world that being a homo***ual is not a
reason to kill ones self?
Understand that the medical community is reasonably good at giving pain
killers for physical pain, but
how good are they at giving pain killers for the brain?
All I ask is that you
> > read this free book beforehand via this
linkhttp://www.lobsangrampa.org/data/IBelieve.pdf
>
> I must tell you that you have no clue what the people who choose to
> suicide have to endure. Yes, it would be good to save anyone and
> everyone from suicide. But hard****ps is so not even close to the pain.
> The pain they are in is beyond what you can ever imagine. I think many
> don't actually want to die - they want to stop the pain.
Exactly. How does a homo***ual stop the pain of everyone on the planet
hating them
and wanting to distance themselves from them and perhaps even kill them?
> The idea that
> the people who have made this choice and followed thru are weak is
> crazy.
It is not about being weak or strong. Where on the net or where on the
earth
is it easily found of how someone who is homo***ual can have good life?
They are brave. Tell me - could you stand up on a building and
> jump off? Could you take a gun and pull the trigger and blow your head
> off? Could you set yourself on fire with the purpose to die and end
> the pain? If you think about it - it really isn't the easy way out.
> They are desperate and in more pain than anything you can imagine.
> Many of them have suffered with this pain for years and years. I
> really don't think you should talk about things you know nothing
> about. I am guessing by what you wrote you are trying to discourage
> suicide. Do you really believe that if someone read what you wrote
> that was considering suicide that this would help or make them feel
> further alone and push them more into the final act? We have children
> as young as 8 years old that suicide. Suicide is an epidemic and it
> can happen even in your family. Do you know in the United States
> someone takes their own life every 12 minutes? Do you have clue what
> the global numbers are? Do you even care? If truly it was im****tant to
> you to help prevent suicide there are things that need to happen.
> Education for many to know that there is help out there and that
> things can get better for some. Our Professionals in the mental health
> care - do you know how many are turned away that beg for help? Do you
> know that even with insurance and asking for help how many of these so
> called professionals don't really listen and just give out more pills?
> Even when told month after month - year after year that the patient is
> feeling worse - they just say keep taking the same pills. What about
> all our military hero's that have gone and fought for our freedom -
> whether or not we agree with the war - they come home and their is no
> help for them. Our own government does not help them. Yes they can get
> on a list and if in crisis - the list maybe a year away. Some just
> aren't even told that they can even get on a list. Those that do get
> help - it doesn't help. Much more research needs to be done.
>
> My oldest son - my heart and soul, died by taking his life. A part of
> me died when he died. As much as I don't want him to be gone and want
> him with me again. I do understand what he believed at that time when
> he made his decision and his pain was beyond what even my pain is with
> grieving him for the rest of my life. Trust me my pain is horrible - I
> want my son back. Yes I do know he is with God, so before you even
> start the hell issue because I am betting that will be your words. My
> son is now at peace and with God and I will be with him again when my
> time on this Earth is up. If you have children, I pray you never
> truly understand how much pain I and all parents feel when a child
> dies. I know that his hell was actually here on Earth and his pain was
> unbearable. He felt that dying was his only solution to end that pain.
> So many believe that.
>
> I resent the way you speak about this issue. You have no knowledge,
> understanding or even compassion. Do you really believe a weak person
> could pull that trigger or jump off that building or whatever else
> they did to die? No they were desperate and they were brave. Most
> certainly not weak. Do you really think that anyone has ever killed
> themselves because of some hard****ps in life? Please get educated on
> this subject before you speak about such things. You are doing more
> harm than any good. I don't think that is your intention.
>
> Josh's Mom
> Love is Stronger Than Death
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