On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:55:25 -0800 (PST), childadvocate
<smartnews@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>The conference is not a debate forum. It is for survivors of ritual
>abuse to find sup****t and heal from these crimes.
>
In other words, anyone who doesn't accept the premise that SRA is
a massive conspiracy that's been going on for centuries isn't welcome.
>
>Like this list, there are plenty of debate forums on the web.
>
>It is interesting to see the repeated claims of no evidence, when I
>have presented the evidence over and over again.
>
CREDIBLE evidence.
What you present offers nothing in the way of actual proof that
SRA exists as you present it.
>I will present the data again.
>
It will be every bit as invalid as it was before.
--
Bless me, Father, for I have committed an original sin.
I poked a badger with a spoon.
>
>Recent worldwide survey of ritual abuse - The Extreme Abuse Survey
>final results are online with findings,questionnaires and
>presentations for download as pdf-files. More than 750 pages of
>do***entation http://extreme-abuse-survey.net/
>
>Peer reviewed articles proving ritual abuse exists:
>http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/
>
>Lists of legal cases:
>
>Believe the children (1997). “Conviction List: Ritual Child Abuse”.
>http://www.ra-info.org/resources/ra_cases.shtml
>
>The Satanism and Ritual Abuse Archive” This archive contains 92 cases
>as of February 12, 2008.
http://www.endritualabuse.org/ritualabusearchive.htm
>
>Web pages proving the existence of ritual abuse:
>
>Noblitt, PhD, J. R. - An Empirical Look at the Ritual Abuse
>Controversy (2007)
>http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/an-empirical-look-at-the-ritual-abuse-controversy-randy-noblitt-phd/
>
>Ritual Abuse Bibliography
http://www.ra-info.org/library/articles/ra_arti1.shtml
>
>Ritual Abuse Statistics & Research
http://home.mchsi.com/~ftio/ra-stats.htm
>
>Searchable releases on satanic ritual abuse
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psnews/
>
>Frequently Asked Questions about Ritual Abuse and Mind Control
>http://www.survivor****p.org/faq.html
>
>Satanic Ritual Abuse: The Evidence Surfaces By Daniel Ryder, CCDC, LSW
>http://home.mchsi.com/~ftio/ra-evidence-surfaces.htm
>
>2008 Publications on Ritual Abuse and Mind Control
>http://www.endritualabuse.org/citation
2.htm
>
>Lacter, E (2008-02-11). “Brief Synopsis of the Literature on the
>Existence of Ritualistic Abuse”.
http://endritualabuse.org/BriefSynopsis.htm
>
>
>
>On Nov 16, 4:44 pm, forevernitefan <fvrn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Nov 8, 10:48 pm, Kent Wills <compu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 15:15:04 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<Greego...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > I've added the Lar$on group since Lar$on used to thrive on the
>> > whole SRA thing. He even had some books ghost-written about the
>> > topic. Dead Air is one of them.
>>
>> > [...]
>>
>> > >> For a research-based rebuttal to Wikipedia’s article, “Satanic
Ritual
>> > >> Abuse,” see The Truth about Satanic Ritual Abuse (http://
>> > >>
ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/the-truth-about-satanic-ritual-
>> > >> abuse).
>>
>> > >He says the proof is on his website, then when you
>> > >go to the website it says the proof is on his Youtube Video,
>> > >but it refers back to the web site for the proof.
>>
>> > >Any information which fails to sup****t his crusade
>> > >is viewed as a conspiracy by perpetrators
>> > >of ritual satanic child abuse.
>>
>> > >He described that modus operandi outright.
>>
>> > >Does that mean that the FBI itself is perpetrators?
>> > >An FBI re****t from the 1980's refutes the idea of RSCA.
>>
>> > It's not difficult to accept that some people committed acts that
>> > would be consistent with a claim of SRA. Given human nature, there
>> > are bound to be people who have done it, are doing it, and will do
it.
>> > However, it's certainly not as wide spread or organized as some,
>> > like Lar$on and Diana, wanted and want people to believe.
>>
>> > >He's throwing some sort of seminars about RSCA
>> > >and Mind Control, but states outright that
>> > >doubters are not welcome and would be ejected.
>>
>> > Which is really dumb. If one actually believes something is
>> > happening, wouldn't it stand to reason that he would want to share
the
>> > evidence with those who question? Converting someone who questions
>> > it is better than solidifying their doubt.
>>
>> > >Who is this guy pu****ng this?
>> > >What is his background, motivation, etc?
>>
>> > >Here he rails against Wikipedia and accuses
>> > >them of being sympathetic to perpetrators.
>>
>> > >How big is this kooky WITCH HUNT anyway?
>>
>> It's pretty much over in the USA but in the UK the SRA crap is, from
>> what I understand, in hysteria levels like we had in the late
>> eighties and early nineties.
>>
>> There are a number of books out critical of the SRA myth and have
>> been out for a number of years.' Satanic Panic" By Jeffrey Victor is
>> one of them. Another book that deals more with the Christian lies
>> about Wicca and includes the SRA stories and shows how many of the
>> accounts are not to be believed is " Witch Hunts" by Kerr Cuhulain.
>> Cuhulain also has a series of articles (180 plus) on the same topic
>> area on the Witchvox web site.
>>
>> There are so many areas about this " satanic ritual abuse" crap that
>> should rightly be heavily criticized and scrutinized. The core of
>> this is the fundamentalist and evangelical Christian view of "
>> spiritual warfare" added to their claims of alleged widespread,
>> organized underground satanic cults involved in child ****, widespread
>> human sacrifice and other crap like that. And all this with no bodies,
>> no remains, no child **** to prove their claims.
>>
>> The not allowing dissenters or doubters to air their questions is
>> typical of someone who wants to brainwash his or her audience. It's
>> also typical of the cult leader mentality. If you are going to sell a
>> hysteria and profit from the fearmongering, you DON'T want the crowd
>> to know how flimsy your " evidence" actually is and how the subject
>> has been found in actual investigation to be smoke and mirrors and no
>> actual proof.
>>
>> Yes there is an occasional, so-called " cult crime". But more often
>> than not it is a small group, not the centuries-old organized satanic
>> cults claim. And yes child molestation does happen. But guess what?
>> You don't have to be a " satanist" to be a child molester. In fact the
>> Catholic Church, among other Christian churches, has a number of
>> ministers who are pedophiles.
>>
>> Moe
>> Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
>> " A vampire cop?
REALLY?"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> > It's very minor. Most have come to realize that those who were
>> > abused in a manner consistent with SRA were the victims of individual
>> > psychos and not a grand conspiracy.
>>
>> > --
>> > A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
>> > Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
>> > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>> > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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