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proof ritual abuse exists

by childadvocate <smartnews@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 16, 2008 at 05:55 PM

The conference is not a debate forum. It is for survivors of ritual
abuse to find sup****t and heal from these crimes.


Like this list, there are plenty of debate forums on the web.

It is interesting to see the repeated claims of no evidence, when I
have presented the evidence over and over again.

I will present the data again.


Recent worldwide survey of ritual abuse - The Extreme Abuse Survey
final results are online with findings,questionnaires and
presentations for download as pdf-files. More than 750 pages of
do***entation http://extreme-abuse-survey.net/

Peer reviewed articles proving ritual abuse exists:
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-wit=
h-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/

Lists of legal cases:

Believe the children (1997). =93Conviction List: Ritual Child Abuse=94.
http://www.ra-info.org/resources/ra_cases.shtml

The Satanism and Ritual Abuse Archive=94 This archive contains 92 cases
as of February 12, 2008.
http://www.endritualabuse.org/ritualabusearchive.h=
tm

Web pages proving the existence of ritual abuse:

Noblitt, PhD, J. R. - An Empirical Look at the Ritual Abuse
Controversy (2007)
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/an-empirical-look-at-the-ritual-=
abuse-controversy-randy-noblitt-phd/

Ritual Abuse Bibliography
http://www.ra-info.org/library/articles/ra_arti1.=
shtml

Ritual Abuse Statistics & Research
http://home.mchsi.com/~ftio/ra-stats.htm

Searchable releases on satanic ritual abuse
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/p=
snews/

Frequently Asked Questions about Ritual Abuse and Mind Control
http://www.survivor****p.org/faq.html

Satanic Ritual Abuse: The Evidence Surfaces By Daniel Ryder, CCDC, LSW
http://home.mchsi.com/~ftio/ra-evidence-surfaces.htm

2008 Publications on Ritual Abuse and Mind Control
http://www.endritualabuse.org/citation
2.htm

Lacter, E (2008-02-11). =93Brief Synopsis of the Literature on the
Existence of Ritualistic Abuse=94.
http://endritualabuse.org/BriefSynopsis.=
htm



On Nov 16, 4:44=A0pm, forevernitefan <fvrn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 10:48=A0pm, Kent Wills <compu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 15:15:04 -0800 (PST), Greegor <Greego...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > wrote:
>
> > =A0 =A0 I've added the Lar$on group since Lar$on used to thrive on the
> > whole SRA thing. =A0He even had some books ghost-written about the
> > topic. =A0Dead Air is one of them.
>
> > [...]
>
> > >> For a research-based rebuttal to Wikipedia=92s article, =93Satanic
R=
itual
> > >> Abuse,=94 see The Truth about Satanic Ritual Abuse (http://
> > >> ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/the-truth-about-satanic-ritual-
> > >> abuse).
>
> > >He says the proof is on his website, then when you
> > >go to the website it says the proof is on his Youtube Video,
> > >but it refers back to the web site for the proof.
>
> > >Any information which fails to sup****t his crusade
> > >is viewed as a conspiracy by perpetrators
> > >of ritual satanic child abuse.
>
> > >He described that modus operandi outright.
>
> > >Does that mean that the FBI itself is perpetrators?
> > >An FBI re****t from the 1980's refutes the idea of RSCA.
>
> > =A0 =A0 It's not difficult to accept that some people committed acts
th=
at
> > would be consistent with a claim of SRA. =A0Given human nature, there
> > are bound to be people who have done it, are doing it, and will do it.
> > =A0 =A0 =A0However, it's certainly not as wide spread or organized as
s=
ome,
> > like Lar$on and Diana, wanted and want people to believe.
>
> > >He's throwing some sort of seminars about RSCA
> > >and Mind Control, but states outright that
> > >doubters are not welcome and would be ejected.
>
> > =A0 =A0 Which is really dumb. =A0If one actually believes something is
> > happening, wouldn't it stand to reason that he would want to share the
> > evidence with those who question? =A0 Converting someone who questions
> > it is better than solidifying their doubt.
>
> > >Who is this guy pu****ng this?
> > >What is his background, motivation, etc?
>
> > >Here he rails against Wikipedia and accuses
> > >them of being sympathetic to perpetrators.
>
> > >How big is this kooky WITCH HUNT anyway?
>
> =A0It's pretty much over in the USA but in the UK the SRA crap is, from
> what I understand, in hysteria levels like we had in =A0the late
> eighties and early nineties.
>
> =A0There are a number of books out critical of the SRA myth and have
> been out for a number of years.' Satanic Panic" By Jeffrey Victor is
> one of them. Another book that deals more with the Christian lies
> about Wicca and includes the SRA stories and shows how many of the
> accounts are not to be believed is " Witch Hunts" by Kerr Cuhulain.
> Cuhulain also has a series of articles (180 plus) on the same topic
> area on the Witchvox web site.
>
> =A0There are so many areas about this " satanic ritual abuse" crap that
> should rightly be heavily criticized and scrutinized. The core of
> this is the fundamentalist and evangelical Christian view of "
> spiritual warfare" added to their claims of alleged widespread,
> organized underground satanic cults involved in child ****, widespread
> human sacrifice and other crap like that. And all this with no bodies,
> no remains, no child **** to prove their claims.
>
> =A0The not allowing dissenters or doubters to air their questions is
> typical of someone who wants to brainwash his or her audience. It's
> also typical of the cult leader mentality. If you are going to sell a
> hysteria and profit from the fearmongering, you DON'T want the crowd
> to know how flimsy your " evidence" actually is and how the subject
> has been found in actual investigation to be smoke and mirrors and no
> actual proof.
>
> =A0Yes there is an occasional, so-called " cult crime". But more often
> than not it is a small group, not the centuries-old organized satanic
> cults claim. And yes child molestation does happen. But guess what?
> You don't have to be a " satanist" to be a child molester. In fact the
> Catholic Church, among other Christian churches, has a number of
> ministers who are pedophiles.
>
> Moe
> =A0Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
> " A vampire cop? REALLY?"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
>
>
>
> > =A0 =A0 =A0It's very minor. =A0Most have come to realize that those
who=
 were
> > abused in a manner consistent with SRA were the victims of individual
> > psychos and not a grand conspiracy.
>
> > --
> > A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
> > Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
> > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
 




 11 Posts in Topic:
proof ritual abuse exists
childadvocate <smartne  2008-11-16 17:55:25 
Re: proof ritual abuse exists
Kent Wills <compuelf@[  2008-11-16 21:36:25 
Re: AOL has LOTS of child predators
jacque417@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-11-24 19:37:42 
Re: AOL has LOTS of child predators
Kent Wills <compuelf@[  2008-11-24 23:16:03 
Re: AOL has LOTS of child predators
Kent Wills <compuelf@[  2008-11-24 23:28:19 
Re: AOL has LOTS of child predators
jacque417@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-11-25 13:23:57 
Re: AOL has LOTS of child predators
Kent Wills <compuelf@[  2008-11-25 15:44:42 
Re: AOL has LOTS of child predators
forevernitefan <fvrnit  2008-11-27 17:58:56 
Re: AOL has LOTS of child predators
Kent Wills <compuelf@[  2008-11-27 23:42:58 
Re: AOL has LOTS of child predators
forevernitefan <fvrnit  2008-11-27 18:01:02 
Re: AOL has LOTS of child predators
Kent Wills <compuelf@[  2008-11-27 23:43:32 

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