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Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune risk

by Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 4, 2008 at 09:17 PM

Kofi wrote:
>> This is kind of interesting...informationally...
>>
>> http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=62
>>
>> ...but I'd recommend just Googling "nightshades".  I suspect the issue 
>> for people with IBD is the alkaline content of nightshades, however, I 
>> recall being warned off tomatoes by the hospital dietitian because they

>> are highly acidic...at least that was what I surmised at the time...I 
>> suppose she could have meant alkaline reactive; she just told me
"you'll 
>> have to avoid tomatoes from now on" when I was released.  Ever seen
what 
>> tomato sauce does to an aluminum pot if you leave it?..I avoid tomatoes

>> religiously...mostly...
> 
> Acid-sensing ion channel gene 3?  I found something on that a few months

> back.
> 
> Do you experience a lot of muscle fatigue after you eat tomatoes?

I generally experience fatigue and deep malaise after I eat any heavy 
meal...mainly if I eat gluten heavy things like beef barley soup or 
something with high wheat/oat content...though I seem to be ok with a 
couple slices of wheat toast during breakfast.  I had to quit eating 
Cheerios, though...a bowl would knock me down for hours.  Awake, but 
feel as if I'm made of lead, and even just breathing is a chore...

What I get from tomatoes is gut pain, pure and simple.  A constant low 
level burning across my entire gut during this current episode.  Been a 
little over a week since I made the mistake of eating too much pizza and 
I'm still dealing with it.  Flared enough to feel it, but not bleeding 
and still regular; not particularly diuretic, but needing to hit the 
Ultram a couple times this week, maybe tonight as well.

Generally I just plain don't and/or won't eat tomatoes or tomato sauces. 
    I also try to avoid sugars (and honey in particular) when I get like 
this - things that may elevate acid content in the gut during digestion 
due to how they are broken down chemically.

I seem to be ok with peppers and/or dill pickles, and eat those as 
substitutes for tomatoes.  Spicy foods in general don't seem to bother 
me...as long as they don't have an acidic (alkaline?...) content.

-- 
      - Rufus
 




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Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune risk
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-09-30 01:31:11 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-09-30 03:04:02 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-01 01:53:06 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-10-01 07:37:03 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-10-01 09:48:31 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
jackson.alonso@[EMAIL PRO  2008-10-01 07:58:30 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 00:09:25 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-02 12:42:51 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 15:44:20 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-02 17:33:38 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 18:23:21 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 18:24:08 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-02 23:05:11 
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Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-03 20:21:40 
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katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-04 00:02:10 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-10-02 14:42:29 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"trigonometry1972@[E  2008-10-01 08:15:00 
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Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-01 22:38:14 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
einfachzumerken@[EMAIL PR  2008-10-02 01:42:09 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 15:18:55 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
einfachzumerken@[EMAIL PR  2008-10-02 11:16:53 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Taka <taka0038@[EMAIL   2008-10-02 20:34:16 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-03 20:22:37 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 02:24:16 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 15:52:15 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 21:17:46 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 23:26:19 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-05 06:03:56 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Vanny" <Van  2008-10-04 10:15:54 

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