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Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune risk

by katy <katysails@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 2, 2008 at 05:33 PM

Kofi wrote:
> In article <48e4fa0b$0$504$ec3e2dad@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, katy 
> <katysails@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> I was just diagnosed with celiac disease at the age of 56 after a bad 
>> case of ****ngles. After a endoscopy's, endoscopy and blood work for 
>> every parasitical condition in the world, they did the celiac blood
test 
>> and then cross referenced to the results of the endoscopy and 
>> colonoscopy. Said the results were at the high end of the table and
that 
>> the celiac disease caused microscopic colitis. I took the herpes 
>> medication but it had no effect on the ****ngles, diarrhea, or anything 
>> else that I could tell. Neither my gastroenterologist or the internist 
>> made any correlation between the celiac disease and the ****ngles, so I 
>> am going to bring that to their attention. Turns out that over the
years 
>> I have been misdiagnosed with various other food allergies and 
>> conditions when all along I had celiac disease. At least now I know
> 
> "Welcome to the party, pal."
> 
> Say... Bruce Willis vs. American medicine?  I think American medicine 
> would kick his ass every time.  He might be able to take on the Death 
> Star, but not Joe Dentist, DDS.  (Too many radioactive isotopes?)
> 
> Seriously, look for metals poisoning.  It's a factor in reawakened 
> varicella zoster infections and try Chlorella for starters.  If you've 
> got metals poisoning, it will really make treating the virus difficult.

The ****ngles, thank goodness, have gone by the wayside...since I was 
raised in an area 2 miles from a foundry and 8 miles from River Rouge, 
MI, metal poisoning would not surprise me...
> 

> 
> What did you do for the pain? 

Took diphenhydramine and Tramadol and mostly zonked myself out...I 
should also mention I have a high pain threshold..have ahd 2 bone 
grafts, one from an accident and another from a cancerous legion 
(chondrosarcoma) so once you've had bone surgery, pain becomes a 
relative thing...

  Do you still have it?

I still have th scars on my abdomen...I had huge intense itching and it 
baded the whole right side of my trunk and down into my groin...

  I've gotten good
> relief from magnesium, methyl-B12, low-dose naltrexone and - you might 
> find this hard to believe - green tea extract topically applied in a 50%

> distilled water/50% DMSO mixture.  

I did use a green tea moisturizer and got relief from it...

Turns out it's a PPARalpha agonist,
> which helps with pain and carnitine uptake.  It's also an antioxidant 
> and it helps inhibit viral replication.  Also trips HIF-1a which I wrote

> about recently.  Anyway, as long as the skin is clean and the 
> ingredients pure, there's little downside risk in it (as long as you 
> don't mind waking up looking like Kermit with green sheets and pillows).
 
> Famous last words, of course...

Doctor told me I could also use capseisin..that it aggravates the 
****ngles...I was loathe to do that though becasue I wear contacts and 
that stuff is hard to get off your hands, even scrubbing ruthlessly 
(past experience speaking...not pleeasant...)

> 
> You might have these food allergies, you know.  Just because you're 
> making antibodies to gliaden, you're not off the hook for antibodies to 
> other foods.  In fact, the Celiac may have given you other problems like

> those seen in IBD.  To weed this out, you'll need to pursue an allergy 
> elimination diet

I've had two in the past..they were contradictory..I am lactose 
intolerant for sure and do have allergies for walnuts and pecans 
(anaphylactic reactions) I am also allergic to both penicillin and 
sulpha...one test said I was allergic to peaches, strawberries and 
tomatoes, but  they never give me any grief...allergist said I was 
probably having an intolerant reaction because my immune system was 
already overstimulated and sometimes you'll get false results...the 
second test did not show these things..

..  Did you get a full viral panel?

I don't know...I went into this whole thing uninformed on what I should 
be asking...

   Is varicella all
> you've got? 

Don't know..

  Did they give you Valcyte or some sort of immunoglobulin
> product or a vaccine for the ****ngles infection?

They gave me Valtrex for the ****ngles. I take diphenhydramine for 
allergic reactions and Zyrtec daily...I am also now taking Asacol (sp)
I cannot take oral steroids, ehich was one suggestion...I do the steroid 
freaky thing on them and get very paranoid...



> 
> As long as you have that infection, you'll want to avoid leukotriene 
> blockers.  

I don't take Singular, so should be fine...

A lot of allergy medicines block LTB4, which is vital for
> fighting the virus [PMID 17931111].  You should probably pick through 
> everything you take and see how it might affect the virus or even your 
> Celiac.  There are so many ingredients in pills that cause problems for 
> Celiacs.

The pharmacist at our local pharmacy has been very helpful and even 
supplied a list that Walgreen's has for OTC gluten free drugs...said if 
something comes up they could always formulate themspeves...
 




 29 Posts in Topic:
Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune risk
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-09-30 01:31:11 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-09-30 03:04:02 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-01 01:53:06 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-10-01 07:37:03 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-10-01 09:48:31 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
jackson.alonso@[EMAIL PRO  2008-10-01 07:58:30 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 00:09:25 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-02 12:42:51 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 15:44:20 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-02 17:33:38 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 18:23:21 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 18:24:08 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-02 23:05:11 
Re: redheads, celiac and opiates
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-03 20:21:40 
Re: redheads, celiac and opiates
katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-04 00:02:10 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-10-02 14:42:29 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"trigonometry1972@[E  2008-10-01 08:15:00 
Re: vitamin D3 resistance
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-01 22:38:14 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
einfachzumerken@[EMAIL PR  2008-10-02 01:42:09 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 15:18:55 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
einfachzumerken@[EMAIL PR  2008-10-02 11:16:53 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Taka <taka0038@[EMAIL   2008-10-02 20:34:16 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-03 20:22:37 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 02:24:16 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 15:52:15 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 21:17:46 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 23:26:19 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-05 06:03:56 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Vanny" <Van  2008-10-04 10:15:54 

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