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Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune risk

by Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 2, 2008 at 12:09 AM

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> Kofi, what are your palns to treat the infection? It is well known
> that herpesviri modulate the immune system towards a Th2 ****ft by
> producing the necessary ILs. However we still lack efficient methods
> of diagnosis as well as treatment

Well, my IgG/IgM titers seem to be pretty accurate.  Varicella and CMV 
fit a good number of symptoms.  What bothers me are those chronic 
infections I might have that aren't prompting an antibody response.  I 
suppose those require PCR.  What we really need are shotgun chips that 
look for thousands of antibodies and fragments of pathogen DNA/RNA at 
once.  With modern chip fabrication techniques, economies of scale could 
churn them out pretty cheaply.  Sadly, I'm not aware of any push in 
microfluidics to put something like this on the market any time soon.

Having said that, I've got a definite viral problem.  I've suspected 
something like this for a long time, but with a condition this 
complicated, I've had little other choice than peeling each layer of the 
onion one at a time.  The viruses are simply the most recent layer 
that's stuck to the onion.  I've done well on the chlorella and this 
seems to indicate I didn't fully take care of the earliest, most obvious 
layer - the mercury poisoning.  There's not much recent in the pubmed 
literature, but there are some intriguing abstracts on mercury, CMV and 
chlorella (in fact, I'm surprised the NIH slipped up and let them 
through).  There seems to be a viscious cycle involving local mercury 
deposits left over in my gut after detox (apparently the DMPS missed 
them; low blood flow, maybe?), resistance to growth hormone in those 
areas and viral infection [PMID 8931761, 8686573, 7526487, 8686573].

As far as traditional antiviral therapies go, I'm looking at Valcyte and 
the other commercially available antiviral drugs, although I want to 
avoid vaccines like Varivax or Zostavax.  With all the problems I've had 
with metal detoxification, I should steer clear of adjuvants like alum.  
I'm beginning to reach the conclusion that the vaccine industry has its 
head up my ass.

I'd like to know what pathways these antivirals trigger that lead to 
organ damage and whether they are vital to the antiviral functions.  If 
not, I might be able to down/upregulate the relevant pathways to protect 
myself from organ damage in advance.  Ideally, I'd like to use these 
antivirals all at once to prevent the evolution of resistant strains.  
How advisable that is, I don't know.  Whether or not I should 
discontinue butyrate while doing this is still up in the air too.  There 
simply isn't any guidance for this.

This strategy may push me into the realm of immunologists who, I've been 
warned, are as generally useless as neurologists on the whole.  I'm 
rather tired of mediocre physicians who look at a scientific model based 
on a well-researched bibliography as another form of mental illness.

I have started taking Chlorella with a lot of good results.  Chlorella 
is not only an antiviral but also improves IL-10 synthesis and 
rebalances the immune system.  There's even a re****t of it directly 
suppressing allergic IgE responses to caesin in milk.  I'm also weighing 
spirulina maxima, propolis, aspergillus, cillantro, mushroom extracts 
and ecklonia cava.  Clearly, I won't try all of them.
 




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Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune risk
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-09-30 01:31:11 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-09-30 03:04:02 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-01 01:53:06 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-10-01 07:37:03 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-10-01 09:48:31 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
jackson.alonso@[EMAIL PRO  2008-10-01 07:58:30 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 00:09:25 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-02 12:42:51 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 15:44:20 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-02 17:33:38 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 18:23:21 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 18:24:08 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-02 23:05:11 
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katy <katysails@[EMAIL  2008-10-04 00:02:10 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Robert Miles"   2008-10-02 14:42:29 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"trigonometry1972@[E  2008-10-01 08:15:00 
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Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-01 22:38:14 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
einfachzumerken@[EMAIL PR  2008-10-02 01:42:09 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-02 15:18:55 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
einfachzumerken@[EMAIL PR  2008-10-02 11:16:53 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Taka <taka0038@[EMAIL   2008-10-02 20:34:16 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-03 20:22:37 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 02:24:16 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 15:52:15 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 21:17:46 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Kofi <kofi@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-04 23:26:19 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-10-05 06:03:56 
Re: Herpesviruses secrete phony IL-10; might cause autoimmune ri
"Vanny" <Van  2008-10-04 10:15:54 

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