skddlbyp wrote:
> > Culturally adopted foods are of course common for humans - all sorts
> > of bizarre things that most animals would consider poison make their
> > way into our mouths.
>
> Like aspartame, the sweetener for coca-cola and dr. pepper. It is
used
> as an ant poison.
>
> Heck, things which actually *are* poison make
> > their way into our bodies quite deliberately - no doubt many other
> > animals wonder what we think we're doing. However, meat does not
> > seem to be one of them.
>
> Well, to Appeal-to-Authority (so watch out), Dr. Fuhrman says that
> smoking, lack of physical activity, and eating animal foods are the main
> culprits in heart disease. Animal proteins raise chlosterol, chicken as
much
> as beef. Plant proteins lower cholesterol and colon cancer risk.
Cites? High fat diets raise cholesterol, as does inactivity. It's not
animal foods per se, but fatty animals. Bacon. Fried sausages. Cheese.
Butter. If you had to walk five miles for every meal you ate, and the
available animal foods were tuna or venison, you wouldn't get heart
disease.
>
> On the other hand, I like smoking and physical activity. And
English
> Farmhouse Cheddar.
>
> I don't know; maybe our ancestors ate some meat; I'm sure yours
did.
> Maybe to eat an animal was like a symbol of conquering ones enemy and
> spiritually appropriating it's strength. Perhaps free-ranging meat was
> leaner, with no added hormones or antibiotics, and earlier humans were a
lot
> stronger and much more physical active - fourth-world peoples still are,
> although not as strong.
There's a big difference between a couch potato ordering a MacFat
Burger from the drive-thru window and an athlete and some friends
running down a wild horse over several hours, then stabbing it with
sharp sticks while it objected.
>
> Fuhrman says eat seaweed, not fish, to get iodine, so perhaps
our
> ancestors lived on seacoasts or around lakes?
Some did, but we evolved on the savannah. Also, by the time our line
was homo erectus, we were long distance runners. Not just walkers, but
runners. I don't think we were running down field mice or wild
asparagus. We've also been using fire for a long time, so I can see
cooked veggies and meat as at least occasional ingredients in our diet.
Ergo, lots of exercise, lean meat, fresh fruits and veggies, some of
them cooked. No milk, few grains (picking grass seeds for food is a lot
of work!).
>
> > Use of dairy (not counting natural
> > lactation and breast feeding of course) does seem to be
> > comparatively recent, and some populations have adapted better to it
> > than others.
>
> Nyet. Scandinavians eat lots of dairy, but have the most heart
> attacks and cancers of anyone.
Maybe they're not *perfectly adapted. Or maybe they should exercise
more. Maybe their smoking or something else in their diet is causing
the damage.
Exercise is im****tant. A human who does not exercise is not medically
normal. Unfortunately, most folks don't seem to have a strong urge to
move vigorously. We didn't need it in the old days - move or starve,
move or get eaten. We had other motives for exercising then, and people
who have done it all their lives don't think about it much.
Kermit
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