Edna Pearl wrote:
> <dkw12002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
> > comp_n_chess@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >> WP wrote:
> >> > Good diet advice and links for fat, carbos, protein etc. content in
> >> > different foods.
> >> >
> >> > http://home.earthlink.net/~fitness_habit/5_Diet.htm
> >>
> >> It's overall a good and useful page, but the fats section could be
> >> better. It says, "The American Diabetes Association and the American
> >> Heart Association do recommend that no more than 30 percent of your
> >> calories come from fat". Here are their actual recommendations:
> >>
> >>
> >> *** American Diabetes Association: Defers to USDA guidelines: 20%-35%
> >> calories from fat, <= 10% calories from saturated fat, <= 1% calories
> >> from trans fat. It emphasizes trans and saturated fat.
> >>
> >>
http://www.diabetes.org/for-parents-and-kids/diabetes-care/food-guidelines.jsp
> >> http://www.healthierus.gov/dietaryguidelines/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >> *** American Heart Association: 25%-35% calories from fat (25%-30% if
> >> you're obese), <= 7% calories from saturated fat, <= 1% calories from
> >> trans fat. It emphasizes trans and saturated fat.
> >>
> >> http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=851
> >> http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4764
> >> http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=1510
> >> http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=506
> >>
> >>
> >> Focus on avoiding trans and saturated fats! Eat more monounsaturated
> >> fats--like the kinds in almonds and olive oil--and eat your omega-3
> >> fatty acids daily. When considering overall fat intake, remember
> >> there's both a lower- and upper-bound.
> >>
> >> Good luck. :)
> >
> > You are right. People see the no more than 30% of calories from fat
and
> > think they are OK with that much or worse yet that they NEED that
much.
> > When you actually research how much fat you need, you keep running
> > across the opinion that you don't have to worry about getting too
> > little fat, since there is some fat in even fat-free products and
those
> > essential fats people talk about can be eaten in just 3 grams of fat a
> > day which for a 2,000 cal/day diet is less than 2% fat. You body is
> > very capable of making fat from protein and carbs. I'm convinced most
> > overweight people eat far too much fat. If they would cut back on fat,
> > they get to eat a lot more food, since by weight, fat has 9 cal per
> > gram but protein and carbs have only 4 calories per gram. That means
> > you get to eat over twice the amount of food from carbs and protein to
> > get the same calories as fat....any fat whether it be butter, Crisco,
> > or the so-called good fats. dkw
>
> Yabbut ---
>
> Aren't there are im****tant difference between good fat (EFAs,
unsaturated
> fats, whatever) and bad fats (red meat, saturated fats, hydrogenated
fats,
> transfats, whatever)? By definition, hydrogenated fats are not useful
> because they don't have any availability for processing nutrients;
they're
> stored very easily as the body's "first choice" for body fat, because
> there's not much else the body can do with them.
>
> In contrast, EFA's have plenty of chemical availability -- if you draw a
> molecular diagram of them, they have all kinds of dangly ends just
waiting
> to snag onto fat-soluble vitamins, proteins, and other nutrients. EFAs
are
> the body's among the last choices to store as body fat, because the body
has
> so many other uses for them.
>
> http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=33
>
> I mean, c'mon, Crisco is a disaster, dietarily speaking. Hydrogenated
fats
> like that are good for only one thing: storage -- both on the shelf and
on
> the hips.
>
> ep
Right. But for dieters fats are fats. Even good ones add the weight
like crazy. dkw
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