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Re: ****d Grilling and Misdiagnoses

by Peppermint Patootie <Peppermint_Patootie@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 19, 2008 at 02:29 PM

In article <1ikuh4pt303imh3e51o15dhtp8mka4qfjk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Trinkwasser <spam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:49:32 -0500, Peppermint Patootie
> <Peppermint_Patootie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> >That one wasn't me, but next week I go back to the endo at Joslin who 
> >insisted I eat more carb.  Joslin has bitten the "maintaining too tight

> >control may kill you" bait, and it's very hard to deal with the people 
> >there.  But I can't (yet) get my Byetta from my PCP, so until I can, I 
> >have to go in and lie through my teeth.  It's so scary when you KNOW 
> >they're advocating treatment that isn't good for you.  And sad.
> 
> I wonder if Joslin have picked up the guys who left the ADA when John
> Buse took over and started modernising their recommendations.
> 
> Grit your teeth and agree with them to get the drugs, then go back to
> doing what you know works.

I'm only going to them to get the drugs!  The health center where I get 
my primary care hasn't authorized prescription of Byetta yet, so until 
they do I have to go outside for it.

The appt this morning didn't go as badly as my first appt.  I went in 
there today determined not to let myself get involved in a fight.  When 
things began getting tense, I said, "I think we're working from 
different information" and shut up.

A couple of notable spots when I had to do this:

When I asked what the normal lab range was for the A1c result I got.  
She started giving me BG ranges.  No, no, I said.  The normal range from 
the lab since procedures and equipment aren't standardized yet.  "The 
only range I know of is the blood glucose range to match the A1c" she 
said.  "Never mind," I said.  "I think we're working......."

Then when I mentioned low-carbing she started in on how it's a terrible 
way to eat, very unhealthy, and no-one can stay on it.  I just said, 
"Ah."

Come to think of it, I said "Ah" a lot.  It's nice and neutral, 
acknowledging that she's said something without giving any content in 
the response.

I said "Ah" when she said that aiming for weight loss was primary and BG 
control secondary and that unscheduled exercise didn't count.  I kid you 
not.  She asked about exercise, and I said that I had a lot of walking 
built into my life because I don't own a car.  "But that's lifestyle!" 
she exclaimed.  "I'm asking about scheduled exercise.  No scheduled 
exercise?" while she shook her head sadly.

But I did get her to smile!  First time in two appointments!  (I 
referred to Byetta as "lizard spit.")  And I think she may have actually 
looked at my face.  That's a first.  I think the only part of me she 
looked at last time was my feet.

I am glad it's over and that I have my prescription.  And I'm proud that 
I didn't take any of the bait and get into fights as I did last time.  
They have their information, and I have mine.  They're determined to 
live by theirs, but it's my feet and kidneys and eyes and heart at 
stake, so I'll live by mine.  I can only hope that at some point someone 
will actually READ the ACCORD study and tell Joslin what it really says.  
*sigh*

PP, T2
 




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Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
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Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Quentin Grady <quentin  2008-11-13 20:24:15 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Trinkwasser <spam@[EMA  2008-11-14 20:49:55 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Peppermint Patootie <P  2008-11-14 17:49:32 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Trinkwasser <spam@[EMA  2008-11-15 22:51:59 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Peppermint Patootie <P  2008-11-19 14:29:13 
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Nicky <ukc802466929@[E  2008-11-19 21:00:53 
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Peppermint Patootie <P  2008-11-19 16:14:57 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Nicky <ukc802466929@[E  2008-11-19 23:19:36 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Trinkwasser <spam@[EMA  2008-11-22 16:12:25 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
"Michelle C" &l  2008-11-19 16:14:33 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
"Michelle C" &l  2008-11-16 15:57:57 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
"Robert Miles"   2008-11-18 07:48:09 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Nicky <ukc802466929@[E  2008-11-15 09:48:00 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Trinkwasser <spam@[EMA  2008-11-15 22:52:47 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Nicky <ukc802466929@[E  2008-11-10 22:28:40 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
john McCoy <johnniemcc  2008-11-10 19:15:32 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
"Michelle C" &l  2008-11-10 18:43:20 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Quentin Grady <quentin  2008-11-12 09:05:17 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
"Cheri" <che  2008-11-10 15:24:33 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
"Michelle C" &l  2008-11-10 18:41:05 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
john McCoy <johnniemcc  2008-11-10 21:49:53 
Re: Naked Grilling and Misdiagnoses
Quentin Grady <quentin  2008-11-12 09:06:26 

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