Just out of curiosity, Sock Puppet--just what scientific value--empirical,
rational, whatever--do you think your personal testimony contains?
Absolutely nothing--zero. This discussion has cited many dozens of serious
scientific studies on all sides of this subject, along with references to
discussion groups where many dozens of people have given accounts of their
decidedly mixed experiences with benzos.
Only a complete moron and delusional megalomaniac would believe that
his/her
own personal experience trumps all of that. It takes all kinds.
"~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "anon" <shopathonic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:It-dnSBquPYkAMvVnZ2dnUVZ_oTinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> HA!!!
>>
>> This is the FOURTH (maybe fifth) time you have vowed not to post any
more
>> of your ad hominem filth in this thread, but like a typical drug
addict,
>> you cannot control yourself.
>
> Man oh man, I'm busting a gut now!! Philip? A drug addict??
> LOLOLOLOLOL!! Why to know dear Philip is to love him!! :)
>
> And anon?? I think benzo's are dangerous. I took them for 24 years and
> finally stopped. Was I addicted? Probably, but I never abused them.
And
> yet, I still don't agree with one word you've said yet. You're barking,
> but do one is listening.
>
> HAND!
>
> --
>
> ·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
> ¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
> Laurie
> ((¸¸.·´ ..·´
> -:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·
>
> *~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*
>
> All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
> ~Abraham Lincoln
>
>
>
>>
>> There is nothing in your posts in this thread that add anything to this
>> discussion but your patented personal nastiness and hostility. The very
>> first sentence of your very first post in this thread was as follows:
>> "Ah, the *Anti Benzo Squad* is on the war path again." That is purely
>> nasty, hostile ad hominem garbage. And your posts have degenerated from
>> there, including your inconsiderate piling on of a mountain of
>> tendentious studies, most of them funded by big drug companies who have
a
>> vested interest in promoting these drugs.
>>
>> And now what is the essence of your post? To advance the discussion
with
>> rational argument and facts? No . . . it is to command me to shut up
>> because you obviously cannot refute my points with logic or facts. This
>> totalitarian impulse is of a piece with your chronic ad hominem
nastiness
>> and personal hostility and your indifference to the suffering of the
>> countless thousands opeople who have fared badly with these drugs--unto
>> complete dysfunction and ruined lives.
>>
>> You, sir, on all these counts are an ethical atrocity and disgrace.
>>
>> "Philip Peters" <philip@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:485678dd$0$14344$e4fe514c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> zumone2002 schreef:
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Search for "William Kaufman" and "troll" and you should get enough
>>>> results to learn about anon's usual behavior.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for enlightening us on this subject. While benzo use is and
>>> should be a subject of debate his attitude has indeed been that of a
>>> troll and I will not engage in further interaction with him. That's
the
>>> fastest way to get rid of him anyway ;-)
>>>
>>> Philip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> People might consider valerian and/or melatonin for sleep and Kava
or
>>>>> GABA
>>>>> for daytime anxiety. If those don't work, discuss benzos with your
>>>>> doctor,
>>>>> but proceed with caution, and educate yourelf about the risks.
>>>>
>>>> Since you are still posting this to alt.sup****t.crohns-colitis you
>>>> should have mentioned that melatonin should not be taken with
>>>> corticosteroids.
>>>>
>>>> From http://www.drugs.com/cdi/melatonin.html
>>>> "Do NOT use Melatonin if:
>>>> * you are allergic to any ingredient in Melatonin
>>>> * you are taking immunosuppressants (eg, cyclos****ine),
>>>> corticosteroids (eg, prednisone), or nifedipine
>>>> * you have a history of immune system disorders, liver disease,
or
>>>> stroke
>>>> * you are pregnant or breast-feeding"
>>>>
>>>> From November 2004 (http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/epcsums/melatsum.htm)
>>>> " Melatonin for Treatment of Sleep Disorders" (a review)
>>>> "Conclusions
>>>>
>>>> * Evidence suggests that melatonin is not effective in treating
>>>> most primary sleep disorders with short-term use, although there is
>>>> some evidence to suggest that melatonin is effective in treating
>>>> delayed sleep phase syndrome with short-term use.
>>>> * Evidence suggests that melatonin is not effective in treating
>>>> most secondary sleep disorders with short-term use.
>>>> * No evidence suggests that melatonin is effective in alleviating
>>>> the sleep disturbance aspect of jet lag and ****ftwork disorder.
>>>> * Evidence suggests that melatonin is safe with short-term use.
>>>> * Evidence suggests that exogenous melatonin has a short
half-life
>>>> and it penetrates the blood-brain-barrier.
>>>> * Evidence suggests a link between endogenous melatonin and the
>>>> sleep cycle.
>>>> * Evidence suggests a link between endogenous melatonin and the
>>>> temperature rhythm."
>>>>
>>>> Pharmaceuticals are better regulated and better studied than
>>>> "nutritional" supplements. Yes, there are risks with medications but
>>>> there are known benefits. Supplements like melatonin have risks too
>>>> but evidence to sup****t any benefits is lacking.
>>>>
>>>> Willy boy, you are not a medical professional. You are not even well
>>>> read on the subject. Of course, anyone taking medical advice from an
>>>> USENET kook, gets what they paid for.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Luke
>>
>>
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