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Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems

by "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 16, 2008 at 03:45 PM

"anon" <shopathonic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:It-dnSBquPYkAMvVnZ2dnUVZ_oTinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> HA!!!
>
> This is the FOURTH (maybe fifth) time you have vowed not to post any
more 
> of your ad hominem filth in this thread, but like a typical drug addict,

> you cannot control yourself.

Man oh man, I'm busting a gut now!!  Philip?  A drug addict?? 
LOLOLOLOLOL!! 
Why to know dear Philip is to love him!!  :)

And anon??  I think benzo's are dangerous.  I took them for 24 years and 
finally stopped.  Was I addicted?  Probably, but I never abused them.  And

yet, I still don't agree with one word you've said yet.  You're barking,
but 
do one is listening.

HAND!

-- 

·.·´¨ ¨))  -:¦:-
       ¸.·´  .·´¨¨))
       Laurie
   ((¸¸.·´  ..·´
     -:¦:-  ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln



>
> There is nothing in your posts in this thread that add anything to this 
> discussion but your patented personal nastiness and hostility. The very 
> first sentence of your very first post in this thread was as follows:
"Ah, 
> the *Anti Benzo Squad* is on the war path again." That is purely nasty, 
> hostile ad hominem garbage. And your posts have degenerated from there, 
> including your inconsiderate piling on of a mountain of tendentious 
> studies, most of them funded by big drug companies who have a vested 
> interest in promoting these drugs.
>
> And now what is the essence of your post? To advance the discussion with

> rational argument and facts? No . . . it is to command me to shut up 
> because you obviously cannot refute my points with logic or facts. This 
> totalitarian impulse is of a piece with your chronic ad hominem
nastiness 
> and personal hostility and your indifference to the suffering of the 
> countless thousands opeople who have fared badly with these drugs--unto 
> complete dysfunction and ruined lives.
>
> You, sir, on all these counts are an ethical atrocity and disgrace.
>
> "Philip Peters" <philip@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:485678dd$0$14344$e4fe514c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> zumone2002 schreef:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Search for "William Kaufman" and "troll" and you should get enough
>>> results to learn about anon's usual behavior.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for enlightening us on this subject. While benzo use is and
should 
>> be a subject of debate his attitude has indeed been that of a troll and
I 
>> will not engage in further interaction with him. That's the fastest way

>> to get rid of him anyway ;-)
>>
>> Philip
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> People might consider valerian and/or melatonin for sleep and Kava or

>>>> GABA
>>>> for daytime anxiety. If those don't work, discuss benzos with your 
>>>> doctor,
>>>> but proceed with caution, and educate yourelf about the risks.
>>>
>>> Since you are still posting this to alt.sup****t.crohns-colitis you
>>> should have mentioned that melatonin should not be taken with
>>> corticosteroids.
>>>
>>> From http://www.drugs.com/cdi/melatonin.html
>>> "Do NOT use Melatonin if:
>>>     * you are allergic to any ingredient in Melatonin
>>>     * you are taking immunosuppressants (eg, cyclos****ine),
>>> corticosteroids (eg, prednisone), or nifedipine
>>>     * you have a history of immune system disorders, liver disease, or
>>> stroke
>>>     * you are pregnant or breast-feeding"
>>>
>>> From November 2004 (http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/epcsums/melatsum.htm)
>>> " Melatonin for Treatment of Sleep Disorders" (a review)
>>> "Conclusions
>>>
>>>     * Evidence suggests that melatonin is not effective in treating
>>> most primary sleep disorders with short-term use, although there is
>>> some evidence to suggest that melatonin is effective in treating
>>> delayed sleep phase syndrome with short-term use.
>>>     * Evidence suggests that melatonin is not effective in treating
>>> most secondary sleep disorders with short-term use.
>>>     * No evidence suggests that melatonin is effective in alleviating
>>> the sleep disturbance aspect of jet lag and ****ftwork disorder.
>>>     * Evidence suggests that melatonin is safe with short-term use.
>>>     * Evidence suggests that exogenous melatonin has a short half-life
>>> and it penetrates the blood-brain-barrier.
>>>     * Evidence suggests a link between endogenous melatonin and the
>>> sleep cycle.
>>>     * Evidence suggests a link between endogenous melatonin and the
>>> temperature rhythm."
>>>
>>> Pharmaceuticals are better regulated and better studied than
>>> "nutritional" supplements.  Yes, there are risks with medications but
>>> there are known benefits.  Supplements like melatonin have risks too
>>> but evidence to sup****t any benefits is lacking.
>>>
>>> Willy boy, you are not a medical professional.  You are not even well
>>> read on the subject.  Of course, anyone taking medical advice from an
>>> USENET kook, gets what they paid for.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Luke
>
>
 




 32 Posts in Topic:
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
Philip Peters <philip@  2008-06-13 12:17:46 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-13 12:05:31 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
Philip Peters <philip@  2008-06-14 01:02:42 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-13 20:50:52 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
Philip Peters <philip@  2008-06-14 14:58:35 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-14 13:19:42 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-13 21:01:31 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-13 21:18:01 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
Philip Peters <philip@  2008-06-14 15:20:12 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-14 13:38:18 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
Inky <InkyNL@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-14 11:54:27 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-14 19:07:01 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
Inky <InkyNL@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-15 03:11:36 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-15 13:00:06 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"nanny" <glo  2008-06-15 15:15:53 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-15 21:01:45 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
Philip Peters <philip@  2008-06-16 16:28:57 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-16 13:03:44 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
zumone2002 <zumone2002  2008-06-15 22:19:37 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-16 02:35:28 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
Philip Peters <philip@  2008-06-16 16:37:03 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-16 13:05:48 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"Vanny" <Van  2008-06-18 20:43:26 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-16 02:48:50 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-16 02:52:03 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
Philip Peters <philip@  2008-06-16 16:31:51 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-16 13:07:08 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"~*LiveLoveLaugh*~&q  2008-06-16 15:45:36 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-16 16:53:17 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"~*LiveLoveLaugh*~&q  2008-06-16 17:17:52 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-16 18:00:13 
Re: Does anyone have GAD and GI problems
"anon" <shop  2008-06-16 17:05:10 

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