Well you certainly seem interested enough to keep poking your many head
into
the thread. Besides, this is not a personal feud on my part--it is on
Luke's
and that's the whole point--he posts with no ethical or intellectual
consistency--only to personally flame me, which is an abuse of this group.
You are a liar and a fraud. You have vowed three times now to stop making
your ever-irrelevant posts on this topic, and three times you have broken
your vow.
There is nothing in your post below that adds anything to this discussion
but your patented personal nastiness and hostility. The very first
sentence
of your very first post in this thread was as follows: "Ah, the *Anti
Benzo
Squad* is on the war path again." That is purely nasty, hostile ad hominem
garbage. And your posts have degenerated from there, including your
inconsiderate piling on of a mountain of tendentious studies, most of them
funded by big drug companies who have a vested interest in promoting these
drugs.
And now what is the essence of your post? To advance the discussion with
rational argument and facts? No . . . it is to command me to shut up
because
you obviously cannot refute my points with logic or facts. This
totalitarian
impulse is of a piece with your chronic ad hominem nastiness and personal
hostility and your indifference to the suffering of the countless
thousands
opeople who have fared badly with these drugs--unto complete dysfunction
and
ruined lives.
You, sir, on all these counts are an ethical atrocity and disgrace.
"Philip Peters" <philip@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:48567a15$0$14344$e4fe514c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> anon schreef:
>> Luke is a vicious, obsessive psychopath
>
>
>
> I don't think anybody at asap is interested in your feuds. I think you
> would do everyone a favour by taking asap off your list for crossposted
> mesages. Thank you!
>
> Philip
>
>
>
>
>
> who seemingly has no other purpose
>> in life but to search out op****tunities to flame me like a lunatic on
>> this newsgroup, with this trite little flinging around of the word
>> "troll" at someone he disagrees with. How trenchant and original! And
how
>> sad. He somehow failed to register any indignation when Debs spewed
>> obscenity at a poster and told him he was mentally ill--that's not
>> "trolling" to Lukey. The only "trolling" is tra****ng him in debate and
>> proving that he's an inept fool, which earns one an indefinite helping
of
>> his s****adic belches of personal bile masquerading as public service.
How
>> pathetic, stupid, and sad--how obviously the product of a spiteful
cipher
>> with no life.
>>
>> He, like other members of his little seventh-grade wolfpack, has no
>> evident moral concern for now many people might be misled into assuming
>> that benzodiazepines are innocuous, wonderful, nonaddictive pass****ts
to
>> relaxation and bliss rather than possible invitations to hellish
>> dysfunction and runied lives. No-Luke couldn't care less about such
>> matters, which is why he hasn't shown his malicious little head up to
>> this point. All he cares about is to see if he can find an op****tunity
to
>> play "gotcha" with me because I've shown him to be a misinformed
>> incompetent on numerous occasions on this newsgroup.
>>
>> Let's be clear about something--I have NEVER recommended the use of any
>> prescription drugs or medical procedures to ANYONE on this group,
unlike
>> Vanny and others irresponsible nonprofessiionals who constantly dole
out
>> pharmacological and medical advice on this newsgroup. I merely warned
>> people about the evident risks of casually resorting to benzodiazepines
>> in the face of a mountain of scientific evidence of their very real
>> addictive dangers--evidence that I proffered in copious detail.
>>
>> As for his latest dopey venture into the realm of pharmacological
>> "expertise," there are so many scientifc double-blind studies attesting
>> to the effectiveness of melatonin as a sleep aid that a list of them
>> would take up excessive bandwidth. It's not going to knock you out like
a
>> big dose of ativan or klonopin, but neither is it going to cause
>> cognitive deficits, memory loss, depression, or addiction--none of
which
>> Lukey seems to care about. Based on the timing of his intervention in
>> this discussion, he could care less what agonies of hell benzo addicts
>> might suffer. He just doesn't give a **** about anything but pursuing
>> infantile personal flame wars.
>>
>> Here's just some of the most recent evidence about the effectiveness of
>> melatonin as a sleep aid, contrary to Lukey's asinine cherry picking:
>>
>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/05/060501113641.htm
>>
>> I quote from the article: "Researchers from the Divisions of Sleep
>> Medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Harvard Medical School
have
>> found in a double-blind placebo-controlled clinical study, that
>> melatonin, taken orally during non-typical sleep times, significantly
>> improves an individual’s ability to sleep."
>>
>> Of course, I would ALWAYS defer to the dopey clown Lukey than to any
>> serious scientific study done at Harvard Medical School, just as I
would
>> ALWAYS defer to the dopey clown Lukey on the question of enteric-coated
>> probiotics rather than the most esteemed consumer research organizaiton
>> in the world, Consumer Union, which has the gall to dispute Professor
>> Lukey's opinion that enteric-coated probiotics do not do a better job
of
>> colonizing good bugs in the gut--even though Lukey himself uses one!
LOL!
>>
>> As for interaction problems between Melatonin and prednisone, this
would
>> occur only if one were using very high doses of Melatonin. The usual
>> effective dose of melatnon as a sleep aid--half a miligram or so--is so
>> small that it would have no appreciable impact on the effectiveness of
>> the prednisone taken in the large doses that is typical of Crohn's
>> patients.
>>
>> This is the danger of Usenet cranks like Lukey and Vanny. Vanny
recently
>> pompously and ignorantly declared that LDN (low-dose naltrexone), a
>> promising Crohn's treatment, should not be used with Imodium--but she
>> forgot to consider that the LDN is taken in such a small dose and acts
>> for such a short period (4-6 hours) that there is no interaction
problem.
>> Moreover, the gastroenterologists who conducted the Penn State trial of
>> LDN as a Crohn's treatment allowed the use of Imodium in their
patients,
>> with no diminution in effectiveness of either drug.
>>
>> Poor Lukey--wrong and stupid to the last.
>>
>> Keep at it, Lukey--you'll get me some day, you whining clown! I hope
>> your spite for me isn't keeping you up at night--if it is, I suggest a
>> bit of melatonin and some valerian. Nighty night, clown.
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