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Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?

by Crane <hatespam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 28, 2008 at 08:17 AM

On Wed, 28 May 2008 06:13:14 GMT, Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
:
:I have "mild" Crohn's and tried Activia yogurt once and had an almost 
:immediate bleeding episode - it has a "probiotic" of sorts in that it 
:has cultures that stimulate or promote activity within the gut for 
:regularity.  I started bleeding after only two servings of it, and had 
:increased diarrhea, which I should have expected.  I stopped and the 
:bleeding ceased and I reverted to my usual level of gut activity after a 
:couple days.  I can eat regular yogurt (with fruit) just fine.
:
:Not that I'm against probiotics, but I do think that like with any drug 
:you probably have to find the one that works in/for your situation, and 
:that others may even be marginally harmful - i.e. facilitate a flare. 
:But that's just based on my very limited experience
:
:Just for info - I also seem to be able to drink wine without any 
:problems, and have actually been encouraged by my docs to drink red 
:wine, but I seldom do drink any alcohol...so I'm very moderate in my 
:intake.  I finished off a bottle of red with dinners over the course of 
:a few nights last week with no ill effect.  I also can eat nuts, but do 
:avoid peanuts simply because I don't prefer them - I like almonds.
:
:Thought - the alcohol in beer or wine might affect the probiotic and you 
:may not be getting any effect from them, or a reduced effect...might 
:want to ask about that.
:
:I also have a theory about peanuts that they're too readily absorbed a 
:source of protein, and that this may be problematic for some people even 
:if they aren't allergic to peanuts, but have IBS, IBD, or any gastric 
:alteration.  I come to that theory from observing problems an ex of mine 
:that has both IBS and a gastric bypass and can't tolerate them...for her 
:they cause "dumping" - very painful, and hard to watch someone go
through:
:
:http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dumping-syndrome/DS00715
:
:We stopped her from eating peanuts and she dumped far less.  High 
:protein foods like peanuts seemed to trigger her...but everyone is 
:different.

Thanks Rufus.  

I think my colitis is moderate.  Every time I go in for a checkup, I
am in remission as it takes a while to wait for the procedure in the
hospital.

Activa really  isn't a very healthy yogurt. It's marketed heavily
because of it's probiotic content but it's ingredients in general are
not the best:  high fructose content (for me that's bad), carmine
(natural food coloring from red beetles), and modified cornstarch
(genetically altered corn).  You may want to consider trying another
probiotic by itself from your health food store. 

Wine in the past has been an issue but I thought I was doing
better....stupid me. A few beers every now and then usually is not an
issue if I have it with meals.  Sugar/sweets, especially chocolates
cause me problems as do onions and tomatoes and nuts.  Not sure about
bananas.  It's hit and miss with them.  Generic brand high fibre
cereals give me problems too, but All-Bran doesn't. 

I reckon I have nobody else to blame but myself for not following my
dietary restrictions and this recent flare-up.  I am still curious
though on Soy products, even organic soy milk and if gastrointestinal
discomfort causes or is associated with increased rectal bleeding.

Everyone has different tolerances and the fact that I have  had this
inflammation on and off for the last 5 years is making me
concerned/worried about getting cancer since any chronic inflammation
typically and usually tends to develop into cancer.
 




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Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Crane <hatespam@[EMAIL  2008-05-27 21:43:37 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Wayne Marsh <waynegmar  2008-05-27 17:05:05 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Crane <hatespam@[EMAIL  2008-05-27 23:03:11 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"Jeff" <jn84  2008-06-02 11:59:13 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Beez <beasdg@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-27 15:42:44 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Crane <hatespam@[EMAIL  2008-05-27 23:01:19 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-28 06:13:14 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Crane <hatespam@[EMAIL  2008-05-28 08:17:00 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
jswhitejrusa <jswhitej  2008-05-28 05:02:42 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Jeanette <jrusso2@[EMA  2008-05-28 08:56:53 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-05-28 13:51:14 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Beez <beasdg@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-28 13:05:55 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-05-28 16:39:10 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
zumone2002 <zumone2002  2008-06-08 08:09:24 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-06-08 12:57:35 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Beez <beasdg@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-28 13:52:18 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-05-28 17:20:01 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Beez <beasdg@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-28 15:22:18 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-05-28 19:53:34 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-05-28 20:03:07 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Crane <hatespam@[EMAIL  2008-05-29 02:42:56 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-05-28 23:12:05 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
zumone2002@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-06-02 19:18:12 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Beez <beasdg@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-03 12:13:00 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Beez <beasdg@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-03 14:53:07 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-06-04 00:22:37 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
zumone2002 <zumone2002  2008-06-06 16:17:45 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-06-06 19:46:39 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Anon <anon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-07 18:01:16 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Beez <beasdg@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-06 16:49:25 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-06-06 19:59:19 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Beez <beasdg@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-06 17:12:09 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-06-06 20:16:55 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
zumone2002 <zumone2002  2008-06-06 22:45:54 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-06-07 02:05:25 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-06-07 02:33:05 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
Beez <beasdg@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-09 13:53:25 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"anon" <shop  2008-06-09 18:47:06 
Re: Probiotis/VSL3 aggrevating colitis?
"Mr S" <max@  2008-06-19 22:20:50 

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