Re: Now it's MURDER!

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Gramps <GrandpaTD@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Gramps <GrandpaTD@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>>>The Founding Fathers had it right.
>>>
>>> White men had the right to rule over everybody else.
>>>
>>>>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not
>>>>born)
>>>
>>> Same thing.
>>>
>>>>equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
>>>>Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of
Happiness.
>>>
>>> LIBERTY.
>>
>>Immaterial they got it right. You have to have life in order to have
>>liberty.
>
> Therefore it's alright to enslave people so long as you don't kill
> them?
>

I don't follow your argument. If your mother had aborted you, you would
not 
have had the op****tunity to enjoy liberty.

> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because they
> prevent life?
>

Were did you come up with that, out of the air?

> The rights are not in order.

See above.

 Liberty is an inalienable right which you
> do not get to take away just because you hate the idea of women having
> *** without you.
>

I don't want to take away anyone's right to liberty. I just want to see
that 
anyone that is created gets their rights.

> -- 
> Ray Fischer
> rfischer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>