On Jul 13, 2:29=A0pm, mstrhypno <hypnosissaf...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Jul 12, 1:27 pm, canadiancowboy <canadian.cow...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Great reply, Lee!
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> > This person sounds like another 'Quick and Easy Fix' quack to me.
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> > Canadian Cowboy
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> > mstrhypno wrote:
> > > On Jul 9, 11:29 am, last.chance.to.parad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> Some hundred thousands people saw it....
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> > >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAOg4fAX8jc4
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> > >> Were they all having an illusion ?
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> > >> If you manage to love those who want to harm you, then you will
gain
> > >> something beyond any imagination.
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> > > A fat lip? =A0Serious personal injury? =A0Death by preventable
violen=
ce?
> > > Sorry, not buying today.
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> > >> Anything opposing to the above is at least suspicious (don't you
agr=
ee
> > >> with that, deep in your soul?)
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> > > Nope. =A0At least not implication that one should not protect
> > > themselves. =A0The rest - loving your neighbor, etc. fine, but lock
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our
> > > doors anyway.
> > >> Keep you eyes open, for the things to come... and do not be afraid,
> > >> because your soul is untouchable.
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> > > Untouchable? =A0Even by Deity? =A0Sorry. =A0Not buying today,
either.=
=A0MANY
> > > things can touch one's soul - the birth of one's own child, watching
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a
> > > cell divide, seeing a pasture that yesterday was green that is,
todad=
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> > > covered with wild flowers - all have touched my soul. =A0If your
soul=
is
> > > untouchable, you have my pity.
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> > >> Do not care about your mortal body. After all, it is just a matter
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f
> > >> time to disintegrate.
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> > > Sorry, but I will care for my mortal body. =A0I have to live with
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IN
> > > it. =A0If I treat it badly, it has a tendency to hurt and I do not
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> > > to hurt.
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> > >> No fear, my sisters and brothers.
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> > > Fear is a healthy emotion. =A0It helps keep one from injury and
possi=
ble
> > > death.
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> > > You need to face a few facts and start LIVING LIFE as Deity (however
> > > Deity falls into your view of the Universe) intended you to do and
> > > quit wasting time focusing so completely on the spiritual and
> > > exclusing the physical. =A0Human beings are BOTH spiritual AND
physic=
al
> > > beings - and that's part of Deity's design.
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> > > Get with The Program.
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> > > Lee Darrow, C.H.
> > >www.leedarrow.com
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> Thanks, Canadian Cowboy. =A0I appreciate the kind words. =A0This
> individual strikes me as one of those people who believes that "if we
> love everybody, they will have to love us in return" types.
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> The world does not work that way, unfortunately. =A0If it did, then
> people like Ghandi, Mother Theresa and a whole lot of people that I
> used to see when I worked at psychic fairs in my early stage hypnosis
> days in the early 70's, would have already eliminated hate FROM the
> world simply by applying that concept to everyone they met and letting
> the Six Degrees of Separation idea take it from there.
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> But, like I said, the world does not work that way and there really
> are some people in this world who just seem to be wired in a way that
> makes them want to hurt others. =A0Not to mention that if one ignores
> the physical (as the original post seems to suggest), then one will be
> living a purely spiritual life pretty quickly - because one will
> starve to death!
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> Have a great summer!
>
> Lee Darrow, C.H.www.stagehypnosissafetyclass.comwww.leedarrow.com- Hide
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I looked at the video and considered the cir***stances under which
these apparitions appeared. The first thing that is very clear is
that the crowd is religiously primed in a fundamentalist, or perhaps
literalist, sense . You have what Tim Leary, who was actually a
pretty damned good psychologist, called 'set'. This is a huge factor
in what people experience when presented by ambigous environmental
stimuli. Next, you have the setting, again religious and specifically
created to stimulate and enhance a type of mental functioning that is
non-rational, which is typical of almost all religious practices for
as long as humans have had religious practices. You can get even
finer grained and include the culture in which the majority of
population is embedded and you have a very powerful mix of influences
that can produce convincing hallucinations.
I probably should expand on what I mean by 'convincing hallucinations'
under these cir***stances. I haven't looked into phenomena like this,
so I am coming from what I know in other areas and hypothesizing from
there. I am sure that this has been studied and the literature may
say something completely different. The reality of a hallucination is
dependent on the perception of the person, but is often detailed and
the detail is clearly experienced. The details more, or less, com****t
with the experience of normal reality. In religious apparitions,
ambiguity in the perceived details is a hallmark as it is of religious
imagery itself. The ambiguity, or vagueness, of the experience would
tend to reinforce the reality of its supernatural nature through
existing expectation.
Add in the unsubstantiated assertion of many 'miraculous healings',
the probable generalising of the experience of some to the many and
the totally irrelevant testimony of a Doctor who can't '... explain it
to medicine, or science.' and you have a seemingly powerful proof of
the validity of the experience. The inclusion of the Doctor's
experience was particularly interesting to me because of how it would
work in communication. It's wonderfully ambigous. Without actually
critically listening to the statement, it easily becomes verification
of the miracles that were supposed to have occurred by a medical
doctor. If critically examined, it becomes a personal validation of
the experience from someone about whom the natual assumption would be
that they were skeptical by training and where brought to see the
truth through the experience. By simply dropping the referrant, it
applies accross expectations. Very nicely done, in my opinion.
Just my $0.02.
Vance
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