On Aug 19, 2:59=A0pm, "Dragon's Girl" <bettywir...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Aug 19, 10:48 am, Greegor <Greego...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Aug 19, 7:48 am, "Dragon's Girl" <bettywir...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Aug 19, 5:51 am, " krp" <krp24...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > "Dragon's Girl" <bettywir...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > >> >> > I do, however, think he was abusing her. =A0Nothing ***ual
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about it,
> > > > >> >> > just plain old cold shower treatment abuse.
> > > > >> >> > I've no need to look for more signs. =A0Greg told us
that's=
what he
> > > > >> >> > did. =A0He said that he made the little girl take fast
cold=
showers
> > > > >> >> > because she was wetting herself. =A0You can't get any more
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specific
> > > > >> >> > than
> > > > >> >> > that. =A0Can you?
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> > > > >> >> =A0 =A0 Betty I might agree that Greg's ideas of how to stop
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the kid from
> > > > >> >> wetting are a bit strange. But are you aware that some
social=
workers
> > > > >> >> actually recommend this technique? Which is another reason I
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think
> > > > >> >> social
> > > > >> >> workers are QUACKS! No - it would not be anything *I* would
d=
o. But
> > > > >> >> Greg
> > > > >> >> is
> > > > >> >> just an ordinary guy, he's going to rely on what, to HIM is
a
> > > > >> >> professional,
> > > > >> >> tells him to do. He's a VERY naive person.
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> > > > >> > Well Ken, I'm from Missouri, so you'll have to SHOW ME that
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Y social
> > > > >> > worker is recommending this.
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> > KRP > Look up REBIRTHING Betty!!!
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> > BW > Get your head out of your ass.
> > BW > I didn't ask you about re-birthing.
> > BW > I asked you to show me social workers
> > BW > recommending cold shower treatment
> > BW > for wetting. =A0Can't? =A0I figured as much.
> > BW > =A0Trying to change the subject won't do
> > BW > a thing to bump up your poor
> > BW > credibility on this, or any other issue.
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> > KRP > Betty get [your] head out of your OWN ass.
> > KRP > On Saturday I provided several LINKS
> > KRP > (GIMME GODDDDAMN LINKS - I
> > KRP > WANT LINKS!!!) That discussed "Rage
> > KRP > Reduction Therapy. " Re-birthing is the
> > KRP > terminus of that process. The whole
> > KRP > deal is a concept embraced by
> > KRP > SOCIAL WORKERS and NOT
> > KRP > psychologists. =A0They LOVE that VOO
> > KRP > DOO bull****! On the one extreme it
> > KRP > starts with things like cold showers
> > KRP > and holding the child (restraint) then
> > KRP > goes to wrapping the child in a cold
> > KRP > wet sheet and finally REBIRTHING.
> > KRP > All part of the same fukked mentality
> > KRP > Betty. The whole deal may start with
> > KRP > some reasonable efforts to deal with
> > KRP > the child's anger, but add a social
> > KRP > worker to the mix and it gets
> > KRP > psychotic pretty fast.Social Workers
> > KRP > are POSITIVE they know MORE about
> > KRP > medicine, psychology, psychiatry etc
> > KRP > than those who have actually
> > KRP > studied in those fields. Kind of like
> > KRP > Kane, YOU =A0and Sullivan. Not to mention
> > KRP > Kunt Wills the world's greatest living
> > KRP > authority on EVERYTHING!
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> > BW > Just can't stick to the topic, can you Ken?
> > BW > Did you take your meds today?
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> > Topics drift.
> > You should KNOW that, Betty!
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> > The question is whether it was a logical
> > evolution of the conversation.
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> > Ivan Gowch's anti-spanking rant was the first topic.
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> > Firemonkey changed the topic to cold showers.
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> > Apparently she thought that Ivan was on the ropes
> > and couldn't let it end like that.
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> > It was really more of a personal attack on me
> > when she switched to the cold shower thing.
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> > Betty, you didn't ***** when that topic drift
> > took place.
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> I wasn't part of that conversation.
> I hope you realize that there are hundreds of posts in some of the
> recent threads, and I do not see them all.
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> > But now that it ****fted to cold showers and
> > Ken pointed out that Social Workers have
> > done far worse than cold showers, you
> > think that topic drift is something to ***** about?
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> Hmmm.
> No, I don't think that's what Ken pointed out.
> If I'm not mistaken, he said that MANY social workers have suggested
> trying cold showers to prevent children wetting themselves.
> And if I recall, I asked him for proof.
> He rambled about 're-birthing', which in no way proves that social
> workers, much less MANY social workers recommend cold showers.
> Is there something about THAT that YOU would like to ***** about?
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> > It's sad FOR YOU that the cold showers gambit
> > was played out.
>
> > You sure seemed PISSED when ken brought up
> > the "re-birthing" stuff! =A0 LOL =A0 =A0Touchy subject for you?
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> Is there some reason why you THINK it would be?
> We were discussing cold showers for wetting.
> Ken popped up with some rebirthing bull**** that was not relevant.
> So what?
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> > Ken, We HAVE in the past discussed the
> > sickness that is/was "re-birthing".
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> > Apparently a considerable ****tion of adopters and
> > even Fosters had some psychological hangups
> > with the fact that the child did not actually
> > spring from their own loins.
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> > Re-birthing for some seems to be more about the
> > bizarre psychology in the "new Mom"'s head
> > and fulfilling some feeling that she is incomplete
> > because she did NOT actually make a baby.
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> > Parts of it resemble some strange brainwa****ng purpose.
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> > The disaster that re-birthing is reveals some
> > bizarre psychology regarding feelings of
> > ""owner****p"" and denial that the kid was
> > adopted or deluding themselves into the
> > fantasy that they actually gave birth to the child.
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> > Some heavy duty brain rot that shows that
> > all is NOT well in Foster/Adoption land.
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> > Much worse than mere cold showers, and
> > done by the heros of the socialist
> > revolution, the ""superior"" adoptive parents!
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> But I would like to ask, again, is there any proof of Ken's assertion
> that cold showers are recommended by social workers?
> No?
> Didn't think so.
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> > They have fewer psychological kinks, supposedly... =A0<grin>
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> > When a parent does something like a cold shower
> > that you personally decide is a kinky, it's
> > MONUMENTAL but when SW's do stuff that
> > is truly kinky and DEADLY, you
> > want to MINIMIZE that, right Betty?
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> I'm sorry if you feel that Ken's assertion that social workers
> recommend cold showers was not the topic, and instead choose to
> believe that rebirthing was the topic.
> It's not my fault you are as delusional as he is.
> I haven't minimized anything, just asked Ken for proof that 'Many'
> social workers recommend forcing children to take cold showers for
> wetting themselves.
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> > And cry foul about the natural topic drift! =A0 =A0LOL
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> LOL =A0Well, no, actually, I cry foul at the deliberate attempt at
> changing the topic.
> But you believe what you want, Gregalmighty.
So it was sinful topic drift!
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